[siprec] A model of recording metadata
Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@cisco.com> Tue, 06 July 2010 20:53 UTC
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Subject: [siprec] A model of recording metadata
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I'd like to propose a data model for metadata as viewed by the SRS.
(This is the result of discussions between Ram, Partha, and I.)
IMO we need a model such as this as part of the architecture.
Establishing such a model will help to nail down the implications of
many of the requirements that have now been gathered. The model is
conceptual - there is no requirement for the SRS to instantiate this in
any literal way. And in fact for now there will be no way to verify if
the SRS collects *anything* about the sessions it is recording. At some
time in the future I expect that there will probably be work on some
sort of query interface against the recording metadata. At that point it
should become possible to verify that this information has indeed been
captured.
For now, the purpose of this model is as a basis for evaluating
mechanisms for transporting metadata from the SRC to the SRS: those
mechanisms must provide the means to convey the information that the SRS
MAY then use to populate an instance of this model for each RS.
This should probably have been submitted as a draft, but we didn't
manage to get to that in time. So I'm taking the easy way out of sending
it as a message to the list. (If it seems appropriate, we can probably
have a document ready to submit with submissions are opened up again on
the first day of the upcoming meeting.)
This model is a straw horse - I have no allusions that it is "right". I
expect people to want to make at least tweaks, and perhaps major revisions.
I'm using UML notation here.
+-------------------------------+
| Recording Session Group |
+-------------------------------+
| 0..*
|
| 1..*
+-------------------------------+
| Recording Session (RS) |
+-------------------------------+
| 1..*
|
| 0..*
+-------------------------------+
| Communication Session (CS) |
+-------------------------------+
| 1
|
| 0..*
+-------------------------------+
| Recorded Media Stream |
+-------------------------------+
| Type (audio/video/...) |
| Recorded Encoding |
| Recorded Bits |
+-------------------------------+
| 1
|
| 1..*
+-------------------------------+
| Received Media Stream |
+-------------------------------+
| Start Time |
| End Time |
| Codec |
| Media Stream Reference |
+-------------------------------+
| 1..*
|
| 1..*
+-------------------------------+
| Participant |
+-------------------------------+
| AoR |
| Name |
+-------------------------------+
The model described above provides:
o One or more CS per RS, due to private side conversations e.t.c
o Multiple RS per CS, due to redundancy or whatever
o An optional grouping of multiple RS that are related in some way
o Information that describes the participants of Communication
Session(s)
o Information to associate multiple media streams sent for a given
Communication Session over separate Recording Sessions to the SRS.
o Information to associate multiple media streams for a given
Communication Session over a single Recording Session to the SRS.
o Information to associate participants and their associated media
streams.
o Information about media type(mixed or separate), time for each
media stream.
o Received Media Streams will have one participant unless mixed
before being sent to RS, in which case they can have several. A
Participant can of course supply multiple Received Media Streams.
o There could be one Received Media Stream per Recorded Media Stream
if mixing is done before recording, or several if a separate
unmixed stream per participant is supplied. Or there could be
multiple per source (with disjoint time intervals) due to codec
changes.
o Communication Session can have multiple Recorded Media Streams for
various reasons. Distinct media might have theiir own. (Or not -
maybe audio/video together.) Independent sources might be
recorded separately.
The "Media Stream Reference" attribute of a Received Media Stream is a
place holder. In an implemented mechanism this would be a reference to a
particular m-line in SDP from the SRC to the SRS, identifying a
particular media stream. This is clearly essential to the SRS so that it
might record the stream, and get properties of it. But it isn't anything
interesting once the recording is complete. So its transient metadata.
The Recording Session Group has been added to model correlation between
multiple RSs, but I think that concept requires a lot more work. Its far
from clear to me how the need to associate one RS with another can be
denoted. And if two RSs to be correlated are captured by different SRSs,
they might end up in different databases, so even referencing them can
be problematic. So consider this to be simply a place holder for further
work.
Thanks,
Paul
- [siprec] A model of recording metadata Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [siprec] A model of recording metadata Leon Portman
- Re: [siprec] A model of recording metadata Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [siprec] A model of recording metadata Morgan, Dave
- Re: [siprec] A model of recording metadata Henry Lum
- Re: [siprec] A model of recording metadata Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [siprec] A model of recording metadata Henry Lum
- Re: [siprec] A model of recording metadata Henry Lum
- Re: [siprec] A model of recording metadata Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [siprec] A model of recording metadata Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [siprec] A model of recording metadata Henry Lum
- Re: [siprec] A model of recording metadata Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [siprec] A model of recording metadata Henry Lum
- Re: [siprec] A model of recording metadata Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [siprec] A model of recording metadata Henry Lum
- Re: [siprec] A model of recording metadata Elwell, John
- Re: [siprec] A model of recording metadata Elwell, John
- Re: [siprec] A model of recording metadata Elwell, John
- Re: [siprec] A model of recording metadata Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [siprec] A model of recording metadata Henry Lum
- Re: [siprec] A model of recording metadata Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [siprec] A model of recording metadata Henry Lum
- Re: [siprec] A model of recording metadata Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [siprec] A model of recording metadata Morgan, Dave
- Re: [siprec] A model of recording metadata Henry Lum
- Re: [siprec] A model of recording metadata Morgan, Dave
- Re: [siprec] A model of recording metadata Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [siprec] A model of recording metadata Leon Portman
- Re: [siprec] A model of recording metadata Henry Lum
- Re: [siprec] A model of recording metadata Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [siprec] A model of recording metadata Henry Lum
- Re: [siprec] A model of recording metadata Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [siprec] A model of recording metadata Henry Lum
- Re: [siprec] A model of recording metadata Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [siprec] A model of recording metadata Henry Lum
- Re: [siprec] A model of recording metadata Paul Kyzivat
- [siprec] (draft-ietf-siprec-achitecture) Introduc… Henry Lum
- Re: [siprec] (draft-ietf-siprec-achitecture) Intr… Elwell, John
- Re: [siprec] (draft-ietf-siprec-achitecture) Intr… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [siprec] (draft-ietf-siprec-achitecture) Intr… Leon Portman