Re: [siprec] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-siprec-metadata-20: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> Wed, 02 March 2016 16:26 UTC
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Subject: Re: [siprec] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-siprec-metadata-20: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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On 3/2/16 10:47 AM, Stephen Farrell wrote: > > > On 02/03/16 15:23, Paul Kyzivat wrote: >> On 3/2/16 6:08 AM, Stephen Farrell wrote: >> >>> (2) 6.10: Don't you need to say to use UUID version 4 with >>> random numbers and to not use MAC addresses? IOW, refer to >>> RFC4122, Section 4.4 for how to generate UUIDs. >> >> I don't think we want to restrict to the section 4.4 algorithm. SRCs may >> need quite a lot of UUIDs. There is no reason to be using a random >> number generator for each one. > > Using a good PRNG for this should be fine and is allowed by 4.4. > There's no need to block on /dev/random for this anyway:-) > >> And there could be cases where two SRCs >> that are cooperating on recording might want to algorithmically >> synchronize their uuid generation. For both of these cases the >> name-based algorithm can work well. For that to be safe it is only >> necessary that the namespace be unique. >> >> So I would rather not be so proscriptive about *how* the UUIDs are >> generated, as long as they avoid accidental collisions and collisions >> due to malice. > > I'd be fine with allowing that too. I think the main thing is > to exclude using MAC addresses. So maybe saying "Follow RFC4122, > Section 4.3 or 4.4" would work? Looking carefully at 4122: IIUC your objection is to using the algorithm in section 4.1? So 4.2 and 4.3 are ok. And I would think 4.5 is also ok? (But not the NIL UUID.) If 4.3 is used, does it matter what algorithm is used to create the name space ID? Thanks, Paul
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