Re: [Slim] I-D Action: draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language-20.txt

Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@randy.pensive.org> Tue, 09 January 2018 16:58 UTC

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Oops, I accidently uploaded the wrong file as -21.  Version -22 is 
uploaded with the changes.


At 8:41 AM -0800 1/9/18, Randall Gellens wrote:

>  I just uploaded -21 that removes both 5.1 and the offending sentence.
>
>  --Randall
>
>  At 7:38 PM -0800 1/8/18, Bernard Aboba wrote:
>
>>   I believe that -20 resolve's Alvaro's comments.
>>
>>   However, there appear to be some dangling items from Mirja and 
>> EKR's reviews:
>>
>>   1. Mirja questioned whether Section 5.1 was redundant, given the 
>> material in the introduction.  Reading that Section over, it seems 
>> that it is indeed redundant and can be removed.
>>
>>   2. EKR's review noted that the hlang send/recv negotiation is 
>> *not* similar to how SDP negotiates codecs (which is a pure 
>> recv/recv negotiation).  The new text explains the reasoning but 
>> still contains the following sentence:
>>
>>   "This is conceptually similar to the way other aspects of each 
>> media stream are negotiated using SDP (e.g., media type and 
>> codecs)."
>>
>>   Since this sentence is incorrect, it probably should be removed.
>>
>>   On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 4:29 PM, 
>> <<mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>   A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line 
>> Internet-Drafts directories.
>>   This draft is a work item of the Selection of Language for 
>> Internet Media WG of the IETF.
>>
>>           Title           : Negotiating Human Language in Real-Time 
>> Communications
>>           Author          : Randall Gellens
>>           Filename        : draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language-20.txt
>>           Pages           : 17
>>           Date            : 2018-01-08
>>
>>   Abstract:
>>      Users have various human (natural) language needs, abilities, and
>>      preferences regarding spoken, written, and signed languages.  This
>>      document adds new SDP media-level attributes so that when
>>      establishing interactive communication sessions ("calls"), it is
>>      possible to negotiate (communicate and match) the caller's language
>>      and media needs with the capabilities of the called party.  This is
>>      especially important with emergency calls, where a call can be
>>      handled by a call taker capable of communicating with the user, or a
>>      translator or relay operator can be bridged into the call during
>>      setup, but this applies to non-emergency calls as well (as an
>>      example, when calling a company call center).
>>
>>      This document describes the need and a solution using new Session
>>      Description Protocol (SDP) media attributes.
>>
>>
>>   The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>>
>> 
>> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language/>https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language/
>>
>>   There are also htmlized versions available at:
>>
>> 
>> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language-20>https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language-20
>>
>> 
>> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language-20>https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language-20
>>
>>   A diff from the previous version is available at:
>>
>> 
>> <https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language-20>https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language-20
>>
>>
>>   Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of 
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