Re: [Slim] Moving forward on draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language

Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@randy.pensive.org> Tue, 21 November 2017 21:54 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Slim] Moving forward on draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language
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At 3:53 PM -0500 11/21/17, Paul Kyzivat wrote:

>  I wonder if they do it even when it isn't true.
>
>  For instance, consider a movie that was created in English. So the 
> actors are speaking English, the audio is labeled as English, and 
> there is lip sync.
>
>  Now take the same movie and dub it in Spanish. Now the audio ought 
> to be labeled as Spanish. But lip sync should no longer be 
> indicated. Is that what happens in practice?
>
>  Of course, a totally deaf English speaking lip reader will 
> understand both equally well. But there may not be anything in the 
> signaling to indicate that he will have English lip motion.
>
>  The above isn't assuming that the content is being created 
> explicitly to accommodate deaf people. If the goal is specifically 
> to focus on that then some different policies might help.

Since the context of the draft is interactive real-time media, and 
since we want to keep the draft as simple as possible, we're probably 
better off not getting into lip sync.  We can just avoid mention, and 
it can be added in later work.

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Randall Gellens
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