Re: [Slim] Last Call: <draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language-06.txt> (Negotiating Human Language in Real-Time Communications) to Proposed Standard

[Randall Gellens <[e-mail]>]

At 6:44 PM -0500 2/13/17, Paul Kyzivat wrote:

>  On 2/13/17 12:53 PM, Doug Ewell wrote:
>
>>  Gunnar, who participated extensively in the SLIM WG, appears to be
>>  attempting to re-introduce a mechanism to indicate preference of
>>  modality which was considered and rejected multiple times by the WG.
>>
>>  WG rejection of Gunnar's previous proposals to do this was based on
>>  reluctance to try to solve this particular problem in the first version
>>  of the spec, not on any of the specific mechanisms proposed to solve the
>>  problem. Proposing a new or modified mechanism during IETF LC appears to
>>  be an attempt to rehash an argument made, but not won, in the WG.
>>
>>  If this concerns a different issue, not merely a different way of
>>  approaching it, please accept my apology and explain more clearly how it
>>  is different.
>
>  Gunnar's comment makes multiple points. You have highlighted one of 
> them and ignored the others.
>
>  Even if you reject that one, consider the others. Notably:
>
>  - The text needs to be improved simply to properly explain and 
> define the syntax related to the "*" as you intend to use it.
>
>  - the use of the "*" to indicate what it does is confusing. It is 
> using a media level attribute "parameter" to signify a session 
> level property. This has been brought up before, but simply 
> rejected without (IMO) adequate justification. There seems to be 
> some love for this particular syntax. ISTM that in part Gunnar is 
> trying to adapt this syntax so that it both makes sense as a 
> media-level attribute and simultaneously can satisfy the session 
> level need that has been identified.
>
>  I accept the WG's decision not to address the "preference" issue. 
> But this attachment to the "ugly child", if not addressed, invites 
> getting IESG LC comments.

Hi Paul,

I don't believe the WG has any particular love for the asterisk 
syntax, but felt it was good enough for what's needed, and didn't see 
any benefit from anything else.

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Randall Gellens
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