Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language-19: (with COMMENT)
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From: Bernard Aboba <bernard_aboba@hotmail.com>
To: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
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Subject: Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language-19: (with COMMENT)
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On Jan 6, 2018, at 17:39, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote: > > 2. The negotiation structure here does not match that which is > conventionally used with SDP, where each side indicates the formats it > is prepared to receive and the other side can send any of them. Why > did you use this structure? [BA] Thank you for your review. For disabled users, the capabilities may not be symmetric. For example, a user might be speech-impaired but not hearing impaired. So they might be able to receive English audio, but only able to send American Sign Language (ASL) within a video stream or written American English in a text stream. IMHO, this should probably be explained early in the document.
- [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-ietf… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-… Randall Gellens (IETF)
- Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-… Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-… Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-… Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-… Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-… Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-… Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-… Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-… Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Slim] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-… Gunnar Hellström
- [Slim] Updated version addresses comments receive… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Slim] Updated version addresses comments rec… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Slim] Updated version addresses comments rec… Randall Gellens