Re: [Slim] Open Issues on draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language

Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@randy.pensive.org> Mon, 29 May 2017 22:18 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Slim] Open Issues on draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language
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At 8:49 PM +0200 5/29/17, Gunnar Hellström wrote:

>  Den 2017-05-29 kl. 00:15, skrev Randall Gellens:
>>  I think the edits so far address #19, #27, 28 
>> so they can be closed. #38, #39 are addressed 
>> in -09 so I will post that and those can be 
>> closed.  I think #26, #29, #32, #34, #35 were 
>> not accepted.
>  This is my view:
>
>  #26 can be left non-accepted if #34 is accepted.

#26 can be done with an Informational draft that 
provides advice to implementers, as previously 
discussed.  #34 was discussed a long time ago and 
it was decided that we did not need to add 
complexity and that we would keep the more simple 
syntax.

>   But if #34 is not accepted, we could need #26.
>  #29 is ok to not accept. All other aspects of 
> the attribute registrations are solved.
>
>  #34: I have not seen anything about not 
> accepting it, so I suggest to accept it.
>  #35 syntax for bidirectionally symmetric cases 
> - will increase complexity - I would suggest to 
> not accept it, but I cannot remember that we 
> concluded that before.
>
>  #32 requires the two extensions about relative 
> preference and simultaneity to be solved. We 
> have not said that we would not accept #32.  I 
> suggest that we accept it.

We've repeatedly decided to not add relative 
preferences (nor any coordination between media) 
in this draft.  This can all be done in a 
subsequent draft.

--Randy

>
>
>
>  Gunnar
>
>
>>
>>  --Randy
>>
>>  At 11:25 AM -0700 4/25/17, Bernard Aboba wrote:
>>
>>>   Currently 10 Issues remain open from IETF Last Call:
>>>
>>> 
>>> <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/report/1>https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/report/1
>>>
>>>
>>>   These include:
>>>
>>> 
>>> <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/report/1?sort=ticket&asc=1&page=1>Ticket<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/report/1?sort=summary&asc=1&page=1>Summary<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/report/1?sort=component&asc=1&page=1>Component<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/report/1?sort=version&asc=1&page=1>Version<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/report/1?sort=milestone&asc=1&page=1>Milestone<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/report/1?sort=type&asc=1&page=1>Type<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/report/1?sort=owner&asc=1&page=1>Owner<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/report/1?sort=status&asc=1&page=1>Status<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/report/1?sort=created&asc=1&page=1>Created<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/27>#27<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/27>The 
>>> cases in the "Silly states" section 5.4 are 
>>> not all 
>>> silly.negotiating-human-language2.0<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/milestone/milestone1>milestone1defect<mailto:gunnar.hellstrom@omnitor.se>gunnar.hellstrom@omnitor.senewMar 
>>> 22, 
>>> 2017<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/19>#19<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/19>Use 
>>> Media Type registration 
>>> templatemultilangcontentenhancement<mailto:rfc.nik.tomkinson@gmail.com>rfc.nik.tomkinson@gmail.comassignedAug 
>>> 17, 
>>> 2016<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/28>#28<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/28>Examples 
>>> section 5.5 requires 
>>> expansionnegotiating-human-language2.0<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/milestone/milestone1>milestone1defect<mailto:rg%2Bietf@randy.pensive.org>rg+ietf@randy.pensive.orgassignedMar 
>>> 22, 
>>> 2017<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/32>#32<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/32>Audio/Video 
>>> Coordinationnegotiating-human-language2.0<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/milestone/milestone1>milestone1defect<mailto:rg%2Bietf@randy.pensive.org>rg+ietf@randy.pensive.orgnewMar 
>>> 22, 
>>> 2017<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/34>#34<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/34>Use 
>>> the Accept-Language 
>>> syntaxnegotiating-human-language2.0<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/milestone/milestone1>milestone1defect<mailto:rg%2Bietf@randy.pensive.org>rg+ietf@randy.pensive.orgassignedMar 
>>> 22, 
>>> 2017<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/35>#35<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/35>Have 
>>> an attribute to abbreviate the 
>>> bidirectionally-symmetric 
>>> casenegotiating-human-language2.0<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/milestone/milestone1>milestone1defect<mailto:rg%2Bietf@randy.pensive.org>rg+ietf@randy.pensive.orgassignedMar 
>>> 22, 
>>> 2017<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/38>#38<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/38>Routing 
>>> out of 
>>> scopenegotiating-human-language1.0<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/milestone/milestone1>milestone1defect<mailto:draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language@ietf.org>draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language@ietf.orgnewApr 
>>> 25, 
>>> 2017<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/39>#39<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/39>Syntax 
>>> Collapsenegotiating-human-language1.0<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/milestone/milestone1>milestone1defect<mailto:draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language@ietf.org>draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language@ietf.orgnewApr 
>>> 25, 
>>> 2017<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/26>#26<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/26>Make 
>>> use of the asterisk modifier on media level 
>>> with session scope also for media level 
>>> purposesnegotiating-human-language2.0<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/milestone/milestone1>milestone1enhancement<mailto:gunnar.hellstrom@omnitor.se>gunnar.hellstrom@omnitor.senewMar 
>>> 22, 
>>> 2017<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/29>#29<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/29>Include 
>>> more fields for attribute registration from 
>>> 4566bis
>>>
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