Re: [Slim] I-D Action: draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language-20.txt

Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@randy.pensive.org> Tue, 09 January 2018 16:41 UTC

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I just uploaded -21 that removes both 5.1 and the offending sentence.

--Randall

At 7:38 PM -0800 1/8/18, Bernard Aboba wrote:

>  I believe that -20 resolve's Alvaro's comments.
>
>  However, there appear to be some dangling items from Mirja and EKR's reviews:
>
>  1. Mirja questioned whether Section 5.1 was redundant, given the 
> material in the introduction.  Reading that Section over, it seems 
> that it is indeed redundant and can be removed.
>
>  2. EKR's review noted that the hlang send/recv negotiation is 
> *not* similar to how SDP negotiates codecs (which is a pure 
> recv/recv negotiation).  The new text explains the reasoning but 
> still contains the following sentence:
>
>  "This is conceptually similar to the way other aspects of each 
> media stream are negotiated using SDP (e.g., media type and 
> codecs)."
>
>  Since this sentence is incorrect, it probably should be removed.
>
>  On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 4:29 PM, 
> <<mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:
>
>
>  A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts 
> directories.
>  This draft is a work item of the Selection of Language for Internet 
> Media WG of the IETF.
>
>          Title           : Negotiating Human Language in Real-Time 
> Communications
>          Author          : Randall Gellens
>          Filename        : draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language-20.txt
>          Pages           : 17
>          Date            : 2018-01-08
>
>  Abstract:
>     Users have various human (natural) language needs, abilities, and
>     preferences regarding spoken, written, and signed languages.  This
>     document adds new SDP media-level attributes so that when
>     establishing interactive communication sessions ("calls"), it is
>     possible to negotiate (communicate and match) the caller's language
>     and media needs with the capabilities of the called party.  This is
>     especially important with emergency calls, where a call can be
>     handled by a call taker capable of communicating with the user, or a
>     translator or relay operator can be bridged into the call during
>     setup, but this applies to non-emergency calls as well (as an
>     example, when calling a company call center).
>
>     This document describes the need and a solution using new Session
>     Description Protocol (SDP) media attributes.
>
>
>  The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> 
> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language/>https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language/
>
>  There are also htmlized versions available at:
> 
> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language-20>https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language-20
> 
> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language-20>https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language-20
>
>  A diff from the previous version is available at:
> 
> <https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language-20>https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language-20
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