Re: [Slim] Question about "asymmetrical language use"
Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@randy.pensive.org> Wed, 10 January 2018 00:54 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Slim] Question about "asymmetrical language use"
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It's in -23, which I've held off uploading, to see if any more comments come in. At 4:29 PM -0800 1/9/18, Bernard Aboba wrote: > That would help, thanks, > >> On Jan 9, 2018, at 3:50 PM, Randall Gellens >> <rg+ietf@randy.pensive.org> wrote: >> >> The wording is intended to permit only one to be specified for >> asymmertical use cases, it is not intended to disallow both to be >> specified. This could be clarified by adding "or both": >> >> When placing an emergency call, and in any other case where the >> language cannot be inferred from context, in an offer each media >> stream primarily intended for human language communication SHOULD >> specify both (or for asymmetrical language use, one or both of) the >> 'hlang-send' and 'hlang-recv' attributes. >> >> >> At 3:07 PM -0800 1/9/18, Bernard Aboba wrote: >> >>> In Section 5.1 of -22, I noted the following sentence: >>> >>> " When placing an emergency call, and in any other case where the >>> language cannot be inferred from context, in an offer each media >>> stream primarily intended for human language communication SHOULD >>> specify both (or for asymmetrical language use, one of) the >>> 'hlang- send' and 'hlang-recv' attributes." >>> >>> [BA] In our previous discussions, we have talked about scenarios >>> (e.g. speech impaired, but not hearing impaired) in which it is >>> useful to include both 'hlang-send' and 'hlang-recv' so as to >>> accommodate user needs. Wouldn't such a scenario qualify as >>> "asymmetrical language use"? If so, how could the user's needs >>> be accommodated with only one of the 'hlang-send' or 'hlang-recv' >>> attributes? >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SLIM mailing list >>> SLIM@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/slim >> >> >> -- >> Randall Gellens >> Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only >> -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- >> There are two kinds of light--the glow that illuminates, >> and the glare that obscures. --James Thurber > > _______________________________________________ > SLIM mailing list > SLIM@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/slim -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- Liberals are trusting and optimistic because they believe other people are much like themselves. Conservatives are hostile and fearful because they believe the same thing.
- [Slim] Question about "asymmetrical language use" Bernard Aboba
- Re: [Slim] Question about "asymmetrical language … Randall Gellens
- Re: [Slim] Question about "asymmetrical language … Bernard Aboba
- Re: [Slim] Question about "asymmetrical language … Randall Gellens
- Re: [Slim] Question about "asymmetrical language … Gunnar Hellstrom
- Re: [Slim] Question about "asymmetrical language … Randall Gellens
- Re: [Slim] Question about "asymmetrical language … Randall Gellens
- Re: [Slim] Question about "asymmetrical language … Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [Slim] Question about "asymmetrical language … Gunnar Hellström