Re: [Slim] Alvaro Retana's No Objection on draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language-19: (with COMMENT)
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Subject: Re: [Slim] Alvaro Retana's No Objection on draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language-19: (with COMMENT)
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At 6:13 AM -0800 1/6/18, Alvaro Retana wrote: > > Thanks for writing an interesting document! > > Given that this document doesn't mandate the behavior in the case > of not having > languages in common, why does it matter if the combination is "difficult to > match together" or not? The goal is to have an interactive session with the greatest chance of mutual communication. > I'm wondering about this piece of text (from 5.2): > > ...The > two SHOULD NOT be set to languages which are difficult to match > together (e.g., specifying a desire to send audio in Hungarian and > receive audio in Portuguese will make it difficult to successfully > complete the call). > > I don't understand how "difficult to match" can be enforced from a normative > point of view. Difficulty seems to be a subjective criteria -- the example > shows a pair that I would consider difficult too (I don't speak Hungarian!), > but other pairings could still be difficult for me but easy for > others. Using > "SHOULD NOT" (instead of "MUST NOT") implies that there are cases in which it > is ok to do it (again, probably subjectively). It seems to me that > the "SHOULD > NOT" could be a simple "should not". Please see my reply to Bernard and Paul; I will reword the text to be descriptive rather than normative. > > BTW, that reminds me: please use the template text from rfc8174 (instead of > rfc2119). Thanks for catching this. > > Nit: It would be nice to expand SPD in the abstract and put a reference to > rfc4566 in the Introduction. You mean SDP? OK. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less. "The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things." "The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master -- that's all."
- [Slim] Alvaro Retana's No Objection on draft-ietf… Alvaro Retana
- Re: [Slim] Alvaro Retana's No Objection on draft-… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Slim] Alvaro Retana's No Objection on draft-… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [Slim] Alvaro Retana's No Objection on draft-… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Slim] Alvaro Retana's No Objection on draft-… Randall Gellens