Re: [smartpower-interest] New SMART-Power Purchasing Control Model

[Fred Baker <[e-mail]>]

Sujay:

Since Todd has stated in this note that this is not an IETF product and he doesn't intend to contribute it here, I don't think there is much point in discussing it here. The appropriate place would perhaps be the discussion lists hosted by NIST.

Todd:

Most of your note is not about the technology you have developed, but about IETF IPR policy. The correct list for the discussion of IETF IPR Policy is [e-mail].

Fred

On Jun 1, 2010, at 8:17 AM, sujay gupta wrote:

> Hi Todd,
> 
> For the benefit of novice members who might take IETF boilerplate
> without vices, could you please
> elucidate on the statement "for refusing to put in place a model for
> IETF IP which will meet those requirements of their sponsor's IP
> acquisition policies already in use today" , perhaps with examples.
> 
> Thanks,
> -Sujay
> 
> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 7:12 PM, todd glassey <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> I should mention that  we have a new "Protocol for the  Announcement of
>> Energy Availability , Negotiation for and then Purchase of Energy" as an
>> algorithmic trading system type operation. It was patent-applied-for prior
>> to its public announcement. As such NO right to use it is conveyed in this
>> announcement (this last comment is to address NoteWell).
>> 
>> It's a variant of a system used by Securities Traders today which is fully
>> FINRA and SEC Approved, and why that is important is that the instant a
>> meter can shop and buy power from other provides it will become federally
>> regulated by FINRA, and there is no way around that for anyone.
>> 
>> So... the patent for this was filed in March of 2010 and is already
>> registered. The IP is intended to be licensable and there will be an open
>> source version which will implement the basic messaging
>> and control service application protocol over the IP-over-Grid messaging
>> already in place for DASH7 and other appliance type device systems. If you
>> are interested please contact me off list.
>> 
>> 
>> It is NOT my intent at this time to turn this IP over to the IETF because of
>> what I cite as "gross incompetence in the IETF's legal team and IPR working
>> group" for refusing to put in place a model for IETF IP which will meet
>> those requirements of their sponsor's IP acquisition policies already in use
>> today ... a situation which I assert is well known and which makes control
>> and ownership of any IETF protocol impossible even for the IETF itself, but
>> the people inside seem to intend this to be the case and so turning IP over
>> to the IETF is neither smart or meets the terms and conditions for any of
>> the commercial players here IMHO.
>> 
>> This is what happens when you put people in charge of the IETF who's
>> professional salaries are paid to allow them to continue dominating and
>> preventing others from working with and in advancing efforts inside the IETF
>> itself.
>> 
>> 
>> Todd Glassey
>> 
>> 
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