Re: [smartpower-interest] IP based metering project in Victoria, Australia
Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@cisco.com> Tue, 19 January 2010 14:55 UTC
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Greg Daley wrote: > Hi Paul, > > I wasn't on list when you posted, so please excuse the broken threading. > >> Fred, >> >> >> I haven't been following the smartpower stuff, so this might be a naive > question: >> What is the primary perceived relation between smart power and > ietf/networks/routing/etc.? >> - is it the use of networking technology for communication of >> control and management of the power grid? >> >> - or is it going further and thinking of a "power plane" as >> analogous to a "data plane", so that we might end up using >> routing protocols to route electrons rather than just data? [snip] > As an aside, routing electrons using any other protocol than > Physics, is probably out of scope. When I asked that question, it was only half tongue in cheek. It couldn't really be "routing electrons" (there's not much room for addressing in addition to the payload) - it pretty much has to be circuit switching to get the electrons from where they are available to where they are needed. But I was wondering if routing algorithms for the power itself was on the table. Thanks, Paul
- [smartpower-interest] IP based metering project i… Greg Daley
- Re: [smartpower-interest] IP based metering proje… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [smartpower-interest] IP based metering proje… Greg Daley
- Re: [smartpower-interest] IP based metering proje… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [smartpower-interest] IP based metering proje… Greg Daley
- Re: [smartpower-interest] IP based metering proje… Michael Richardson