Re: [smartpower-interest] [smartpowerdir] FYI OSTP requests input on SmartGrid

[hector <[e-mail]>]

Wilhelm Wimmreuter wrote:

> Pretty much in line with all said,
>  Guess it all will end up something in line with the old stuff they call "Night-power-pricing" in here in Europe. This, pretty old system, sends guard tones over the wire to announce excess energy for a cheap price. Smart consumers like heating systems, washing machines or other high current devices could then use this guard tone to start up and use the cheap tariff during this time. Typically the power companies guarantee some hours during night time with these tariffs which has made up its name.
> 
>  Nowdays and for smart grids we might replace this 50 year old guard tone system to some brokerage protocol that allows smart consumers and power sockets to.
>  - charge the cars batteries during of peak hours or immediately if needed 
>  - start machinery that can be started during off peak hours
>  - even deal with different power-supply companies
>  - bill power consumption from smart sockets to any contract 
>    of your favorite power supply company
>  - sell local excess power from batteries of idle cars or
>    emergency power supplies to the grid. 
>  - ...


Let the game begins after the price of energy is increased first - 
cost of building this.   Maybe I am a skeptic, but I find it a little 
hard to shallow that consumers will be paying any less than are are 
today, and that there would be a rates menu ala cart.

I read this in  draft-sturek-6lowapp-smartenergy-00 and it just blew 
my mind.

2.  Requirements

    For Smart Energy to be truly successful, it must be ubiquitous.
    It is useful for an energy producer to be able to indicate an
    increase in price to a consumer, and have their equipment respond
    according to some consumer specified behavior; it becomes more
    useful when the consumer has a rich variety of choices regarding
    how to respond.

Either they wish to prepare the market for the reality - prices will 
increase or someone from PR and marketing needs get involved and 
rephrase the above. The often used "Flex" plan in businesses once 
again - flexible but more expensive overall.

It nit fix is simple - one word:

    It is useful for an energy producer to be able to indicate an
    CHANGE in price to a consumer, and have their equipment respond
    .........

Oh well.

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HLS