Re: [smartpower-interest] Report on the Smart Grid work in the IETF

"Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)" <mehmet.ersue@nsn.com> Wed, 30 March 2011 09:07 UTC

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May be we should add 'draft-ietf-opsawg-management-stds' to the list, 
which has been mainly triggered by NIST SGIP and aims to complement 
draft-baker-ietf-core.

The draft is going to be discussed in SGIP IP Suite (IPSWG) and 
Cyber Security (CSWG) Working Groups.

Cheers, 
Mehmet
 

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> Subject: [smartpower-interest] Report on the Smart Grid work in the
> IETF
> 
> Ross asked me to put together a report on Smart Grid-related work in
> the IETF.
> 
> In short, we have two RFCs and 18 Internet Drafts at this moment that
> explicitly mention the Smart Grid. The two RFCs are:
> 
> http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc5548.txt
> 5548 Routing Requirements for Urban Low-Power and Lossy Networks. M.
>      Dohler, Ed., T. Watteyne, Ed., T. Winter, Ed., D. Barthel, Ed..
> May
>      2009. (Format: TXT=47759 bytes) (Status: INFORMATIONAL)
> 
> http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc6142.txt
> 6142 ANSI C12.22, IEEE 1703, and MC12.22 Transport Over IP. A. Moise,
>      J. Brodkin. March 2011. (Format: TXT=58320 bytes) (Status:
>      INFORMATIONAL)
> 
> The first was generated by 6lowpan, I believe, and tells us something
> about what ROLL should produce; the second was an individual
submission
> by one of the co-authors of ANSI C12.22, which is a specification for
> the protocols by which one reads an electrical meter.
> 
> The internet drafts include:
> 
>  - draft-arkko-ipv6-transition-guidelines, which mentions the grid in
> passing, and is on the RFC Editor's queue.
>  - draft-baker-ietf-core, which was requested by NIST/SGIP, and is in
> discussion with the IESG and waiting for text regarding PKIX,
Kerberos,
> and SSH per a "discuss" from Tim Polk
>  - draft-campagna-suitee, which describes a cryptographic suite of
> algorithms intended for constrained embedded systems.
>  - several drafts in EMAN, which is looking at measuring energy usage
> in Internet equipment.
>  - draft-ietf-roll-terminology, which is a terminology draft in ROLL.
>  - draft-lee-iot-problem-statement, which identifies the Smart Grid as
> containing a class of embedded systems.
>  - draft-mrw-nat66, which mentions it in passing.
>  - draft-oflynn-core-bootstrapping and draft-sarikaya-core-
> sbootstrappingfs, which reference NIST 7628, which is a security
> analysis of the US power grid and by extension a requirements document
> for security solutions in the Smart Grid.
>  - draft-oreirdan-mody-bot-remediation, which mentions "smart home"
and
> "smart grid" devices in passing.
> 
> More generally, work in the IETF is primarily concentrated in 6LowPAN,
> ROLL, CORE, and EMAN, with the odd supporting effort such as a 6man
> discussion related to the RPL protocol. As you know, 6lowpan has
> developed a compression algorithm and compressed IPv6 header for IEEE
> 802.15.4 networks, which is being looked at by the IEEE for possible
> use in power-line communications. Roll has developed a routing
protocol
> called RPL for 802.15.4 networks, for which the usual analysis,
> interoperability testing reports, and management base remain
> unavailable, which raises questions about the protocol. Core is
working
> on a transport for RESTful HTTP, which is proposed as one way for
> embedded systems to communicate (although I will note that published
> specifications for intersystem communications, such as ANSI C12 and
IEC
> 14908, use much simpler data formats designed for system-to-system
> communication rather than system-to-human display of data content, and
> TCP has been shown to be viable i
>  n an 802.15.4 environment in the Zigbee work). Eman is working on
MIBs
> and related technology for measurement of energy use in various
places.
> 
> Note that, while sensor networks and embedded systems in general are
> probably a more appropriate report, I haven't done the analysis to
> identify that body of work. I would expect it is a superset of the
> above.
> 
> The IAB held a workshop in Prague last week on the "Internet of
> Things", which is probably better described as being about the
> evolution of Internet Technology in a machine-to-machine embedded
> system context. The web pages for that are at
>       http://www.iab.org/about/workshops/smartobjects/
> 
> The workshop did in fact occur, and the organizers will eventually
> generate a report. It was essentially a research discussion and a set
> of tutorials on specific technologies that are relevant.
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