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Re: [smartpower-interest] IP based metering project in Victoria, Australia

"Greg Daley" <gdaley@netstarnetworks.com> Wed, 20 January 2010 01:31 UTC

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Hi Paul,

> [snip]
> 
> > As an aside, routing electrons using any other protocol than 
> > Physics, is probably out of scope.
> 
> When I asked that question, it was only half tongue in cheek.
> It couldn't really be "routing electrons" (there's not much room for 
> addressing in addition to the payload) - it pretty much has to be 
> circuit switching to get the electrons from where they are 
> available to where they are needed. But I was wondering if routing 
> algorithms for the power itself was on the table.

I'm not actually sure if this is in scope today, but may be if there is
interest.  Similar algorithms to those used in the Internet have
been used for control of circuit oriented networks before (ATM/PNNI,
etc).

There is a focus on Power Engineering (TG1)in the new IEEE P2030
standards
group on the Smart Grid:

https://mentor.ieee.org/2030/dcn/09/2030-09-0132-00-0002-eei-presentatio
n-oct-2009-mtg.pptx 


Greg

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