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Re: [smartpower-interest] [smartpowerdir] FYI OSTP requests input on SmartGrid

"Richard Shockey" <richard@shockey.us> Mon, 15 February 2010 18:55 UTC

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I find the discussions of the SmartGrid and my clothes dryer somewhat
boring, but the SmartGrid requirement to manage plug in electric vehicles is
totally compelling.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/15/business/15electric.html?hpw

A full automotive charge at 240 volts would use almost the electricity that
a typical 1800 sq foot house would use during the entire day. 

That is a load factor that has to be very very carefully managed by a highly
secure communications network.

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[mailto:smartpower-interest-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Andy Bierman
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Subject: Re: [smartpower-interest] [smartpowerdir] FYI OSTP requests input
on SmartGrid

hector wrote:
> Wilhelm Wimmreuter wrote:
> ...
>
> Let the game begins after the price of energy is increased first -
> cost of building this.   Maybe I am a skeptic, but I find it a little
> hard to shallow that consumers will be paying any less than are are
> today, and that there would be a rates menu ala cart.
>

The rates that residential customers pay for electricity
seems very different all over the world.  I don't see how
appliance manufacturers could deal with this problem
on their own.

If my utility offered significant savings to use power
between midnight and 6 am, then I would be able to
select which appliances I want to use during that
predictable time period.   Appliances already have
buttons to delay-start.  I don't need a SmartGrid for that.

I don't think I want a complex electric bill, and
automated appliances bidding for kilo-watt-minutes,
and running whenever the 'price is right'.
I prefer the simple midnight - 6am solution for homes.


Andy

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