Re: [smartpower-interest] [smartpowerdir] FYI OSTP requests input on SmartGrid

Richard Shockey wrote:
> I find the discussions of the SmartGrid and my clothes dryer somewhat
> boring, but the SmartGrid requirement to manage plug in electric vehicles is
> totally compelling.
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/15/business/15electric.html?hpw
>
> A full automotive charge at 240 volts would use almost the electricity that
> a typical 1800 sq foot house would use during the entire day. 
>
> That is a load factor that has to be very very carefully managed by a highly
> secure communications network.
>
>   

I was interested in how consumers would utilize
and manage their smart appliances.  There are a lot
more dishwashers and clothes dryers out there than electric cars.
If I doubled my home usage because of an electric car,
my bill would go up 5 fold, using the current monthly
tiered rates.  That's not a compelling use case.
Even at the lowest tier, it is still 5 or 10 times
more expensive than gasoline where I live.

Andy

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:smartpower-interest-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Andy Bierman
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 1:09 PM
> To: hector
> Cc: smartpower-interest@ietf.org; Wilhelm Wimmreuter
> Subject: Re: [smartpower-interest] [smartpowerdir] FYI OSTP requests input
> on SmartGrid
>
> hector wrote:
>   
>> Wilhelm Wimmreuter wrote:
>> ...
>>
>> Let the game begins after the price of energy is increased first -
>> cost of building this.   Maybe I am a skeptic, but I find it a little
>> hard to shallow that consumers will be paying any less than are are
>> today, and that there would be a rates menu ala cart.
>>
>>     
>
> The rates that residential customers pay for electricity
> seems very different all over the world.  I don't see how
> appliance manufacturers could deal with this problem
> on their own.
>
> If my utility offered significant savings to use power
> between midnight and 6 am, then I would be able to
> select which appliances I want to use during that
> predictable time period.   Appliances already have
> buttons to delay-start.  I don't need a SmartGrid for that.
>
> I don't think I want a complex electric bill, and
> automated appliances bidding for kilo-watt-minutes,
> and running whenever the 'price is right'.
> I prefer the simple midnight - 6am solution for homes.
>
>
> Andy
>
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