Re: [smartpower-interest] [smartpowerdir] FYI OSTP requests input on SmartGrid
Andy Bierman <andyb@iwl.com> Mon, 15 February 2010 18:07 UTC
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Subject: Re: [smartpower-interest] [smartpowerdir] FYI OSTP requests input on
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hector wrote: > Wilhelm Wimmreuter wrote: > ... > > Let the game begins after the price of energy is increased first - > cost of building this. Maybe I am a skeptic, but I find it a little > hard to shallow that consumers will be paying any less than are are > today, and that there would be a rates menu ala cart. > The rates that residential customers pay for electricity seems very different all over the world. I don't see how appliance manufacturers could deal with this problem on their own. If my utility offered significant savings to use power between midnight and 6 am, then I would be able to select which appliances I want to use during that predictable time period. Appliances already have buttons to delay-start. I don't need a SmartGrid for that. I don't think I want a complex electric bill, and automated appliances bidding for kilo-watt-minutes, and running whenever the 'price is right'. I prefer the simple midnight - 6am solution for homes. Andy
- [smartpower-interest] Fwd: SGIP Members News>>Sta… Fred Baker
- [smartpower-interest] FYI OSTP requests input on … Richard Shockey
- Re: [smartpower-interest] [smartpowerdir] FYI OST… Andy Bierman
- Re: [smartpower-interest] [smartpowerdir] FYI OST… Gene Gaines
- Re: [smartpower-interest] [smartpowerdir] FYI OST… Andy Bierman
- Re: [smartpower-interest] [smartpowerdir] FYI OST… Davis, Terry L
- Re: [smartpower-interest] [smartpowerdir] FYI OST… Geoff Mulligan
- Re: [smartpower-interest] [smartpowerdir] FYI OST… Andy Bierman
- Re: [smartpower-interest] [smartpowerdir] FYI OST… Fred Baker
- Re: [smartpower-interest] [smartpowerdir] FYI OST… Damir Rajnovic
- Re: [smartpower-interest] [smartpowerdir] FYI OST… Andy Bierman
- Re: [smartpower-interest] [smartpowerdir] FYI OST… Wilhelm Wimmreuter
- Re: [smartpower-interest] [smartpowerdir] FYI OST… hector
- Re: [smartpower-interest] [smartpowerdir] FYI OST… Andy Bierman
- Re: [smartpower-interest] [smartpowerdir] FYI OST… Richard Shockey
- Re: [smartpower-interest] [smartpowerdir] FYI OST… Andy Bierman
- Re: [smartpower-interest] [smartpowerdir] FYI OST… Richard Shockey
- Re: [smartpower-interest] [smartpowerdir] FYI OST… Wilhelm Wimmreuter
- Re: [smartpower-interest] [smartpowerdir] FYI OST… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [smartpower-interest] [smartpowerdir] FYI OST… Akyol, Bora A
- Re: [smartpower-interest] [smartpowerdir] FYI OST… Michael Richardson
- Re: [smartpower-interest] [smartpowerdir] FYI OST… Chris Lonvick
- Re: [smartpower-interest] [smartpowerdir] FYI OST… Geoff Mulligan
- Re: [smartpower-interest] [smartpowerdir] FYI OST… Greg Daley
- Re: [smartpower-interest] [smartpowerdir] FYI OST… Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: [smartpower-interest] [smartpowerdir] FYI OST… Akyol, Bora A
- Re: [smartpower-interest] [smartpowerdir] FYI OST… Damir Rajnovic
- Re: [smartpower-interest] [smartpowerdir] FYI OST… Michael Richardson
- Re: [smartpower-interest] [smartpowerdir] FYI OST… Greg Daley