Re: [smartpowerdir] planned workshop on IOT

Ralph Droms <> Fri, 24 December 2010 18:35 UTC

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We'll meet on Sunday.  I don't think we have anything planned for Saturday.

- Ralph

On Dec 24, 2010, at 1:10 PM 12/24/10, Fred Baker wrote:

> On Dec 24, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Geoff Mulligan wrote:
>> Why not put the tutorials on Friday and the workshop on Saturday.  That
>> way folks will be educated at the tutorials before the workshop rather
>> than after.
> Because the IESG meets on Saturday?
>> 	geoff
>> On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 18:23 +0200, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
>>> Hi Geoff, 
>>> the suggestion was to have the workshop on Friday and tutorials on Saturday. 
>>> Recently, we organized a privacy workshop in Boston and it was not attached to any other event. Hence, everyone had to travel without any ability to optimize. 
>>> Ciao
>>> Hannes
>>> On Dec 22, 2010, at 6:07 PM, Geoff Mulligan wrote:
>>>> Jari,
>>>> Is there any way to make this workshop on Saturday?  Putting it on
>>>> Friday means that we have to leave the US at the latest by Thursday and
>>>> in reality on Wednesday.  Personally this makes it very unlikely that I
>>>> will be able to attend.
>>>> Not sure about all the others traveling from the US.
>>>> 	geoff
>>>> On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 17:20 +0200, Jari Arkko wrote:
>>>>> Hannes, me, Zack, and a few others have been talking about organizing a 
>>>>> workshop right before the next IETF on IOT. Thoughts? Good idea/bad 
>>>>> idea? Sufficient participation can be drummed up?
>>>>> ----
>>>>> Internet Scale Machine-to-Machine Networking
>>>>> Background
>>>>> Today's Internet is experienced by users as a set of applications,
>>>>> such as email, instant messaging, and social networks. While these
>>>>> applications do not require users to be present at the time of service
>>>>> execution in many cases they are. There are also substantial
>>>>> differences in performance between the various end devices, but in
>>>>> general end devices participating in the Internet are considered to be
>>>>> of higher performance.
>>>>> As we move forward with the interconnection of all kinds of devices to
>>>>> the Internet, these characteristics will change. "Internet of Things"
>>>>> is a vision where a large number of devices benefit from the
>>>>> communication services offered by the Internet. Many of these devices
>>>>> are not directly operated by humans, but exist as stand-alone
>>>>> components in buildings, vehicles, and the environment. There will be
>>>>> a lot of variation in the computing power, available memory, and
>>>>> communications bandwidth between different types of devices.
>>>>> Many of these devices provide new services or provide more value for
>>>>> our previously unconnected devices. Some devices have been connected
>>>>> in various legacy means in the past but are now migrating to the use
>>>>> of the Internet Protocol, sharing the same communications medium
>>>>> between all applications and enabling rich communications services.
>>>>> Much of this development can simply run on existing Internet
>>>>> protocols. For instance, home entertainment and monitoring systems
>>>>> often offer a web interface to the end user. In many cases the new,
>>>>> constrained environments can benefit from additional protocols that
>>>>> help optimize the communications and lower the computational
>>>>> requirements. Examples of standardization efforts targeted for these
>>>>> environments include the "Constrained RESTful Environments (core)",
>>>>> IPv6 over Low power WPAN (6lowpan)", Routing Over Low power and Lossy
>>>>> networks (roll)" working groups.
>>>>> This workshop aims to explore the experience and approaches taken by
>>>>> developers of Internet technology, when considering the
>>>>> characteristics of constraint devices. Engineers know that many design
>>>>> considerations need to be taken into account when developing protocols
>>>>> and architecture. Balancing between the conflicting goals of computing
>>>>> performance, code size, economical incentives, and security is often
>>>>> difficult, as illustrated by Clark, et al. in "Tussle in Cyberspace:
>>>>> Defining Tomorrow's Internet", see
>>>>> This workshop aims to discuss the experience and approaches taken when
>>>>> designing Internet of Things into protocols and architectures. To
>>>>> frame the discussion we suggest, as examples, to investigate the area
>>>>> of integration in the following categories:
>>>>> * scalability
>>>>> * power usage
>>>>> * interworking between different technologies and network domains
>>>>> * usability and manageability
>>>>> * security
>>>>> "To make the Internet work better" is the goal of the IETF and the
>>>>> workshop organizers are interested in receiving contributions and in
>>>>> having discussions that support this goal. Results may lead to
>>>>> guidelines and recommendations, the development of standards, further
>>>>> need for research, or implementation and configuration best current
>>>>> practices.
>>>>> Workshop Style
>>>>> The workshop’s main focus will be on the discussions. In order to keep
>>>>> the group at a manageable size, participants are required to submit a
>>>>> position paper as an expression of interest. Submitters of accepted
>>>>> position papers will be invited to attend the workshop. Active
>>>>> participation will be expected.
>>>>> The workshop will be structured as a series of working sessions
>>>>> punctuated by invited speakers who will present relevant background
>>>>> information or controversial ideas that help participants reach a
>>>>> deeper understanding of the subject. The organizing committee may ask
>>>>> submitters of particularly salient papers to present their ideas and
>>>>> experiences at the workshop. For each slot, there will be one or two
>>>>> invited controversial speakers, and group work on the problem that’s
>>>>> identified, hopefully reaching either a deeper understanding of the
>>>>> problem or some means of approaching it.
>>>>> Important Dates
>>>>> Position papers must be submitted at latest February, 11th, 2011.
>>>>> Submitted position papers will be reviewed immediately by the program
>>>>> organizers and an invitation to the workshop will be sent to one of
>>>>> the paper authors. At latest, invitations will be distributed by
>>>>> February, 25th.
>>>>> This one-day workshop will take place on Friday, 25th March, 2011,
>>>>> right before the 80th IETF meeting in Prague, which starts on Sunday,
>>>>> 27th March. Independently of this workshop but relevant for the
>>>>> participants are tutorial events on Saturday, 26th March 2011. These
>>>>> tutorials will focus on ongoing IETF efforts related to the IETF CORE,
>>>>> ROLL, and 6LOWPAN working groups.
>>>>> Position Papers Requirements
>>>>> Interested parties must submit a brief contribution describing their
>>>>> work or approach as it relates to the workshop theme. We welcome
>>>>> visionary ideas for how to tackle the integration of constraint
>>>>> devices, as well as write-ups of deployment experience, and
>>>>> lessons-learned from successful or failed attempts at integrating
>>>>> these constraint devices with the Internet. Contributions are not
>>>>> required to be original in content.
>>>>> We solicit brief write-ups with 1 or 2 pages, formatted in HTML, PDF,
>>>>> or plain text. We encourage paper authors to focus on the most
>>>>> important challenge. A focused message will be key! Accepted position
>>>>> papers will be published (in addition to meeting minutes, slides, and
>>>>> a workshop report).
>>>>> Please send your position paper to
>>>>> Venue
>>>>> The planned date and location for the workshop is Friday, March 25th,
>>>>> in Prague. Details about the meeting venue will be provided to the
>>>>> invited workshop participants. During the breaks coffee and tea will
>>>>> be served.
>>>>> There are no plans for remote participation. Minutes of discussions
>>>>> will be available, and offers to organize audio recording would be
>>>>> gladly appreciated.
>>>>> Workshop Organizers
>>>>> We look forward to your input. The workshop organizers are Jari Arkko
>>>>> (Internet Area Director), Hannes Tschofenig (IAB), Bernard Aboba
>>>>> (IAB), Carsten Bormann (core and 6lowpan WG Chair), David Culler (ROLL
>>>>> WG Chair), Lars Eggert (Transport Area Director, and upcoming IRTF
>>>>> Chair), JP Vasseur (ROLL WG Chair), Stewart Bryant (Routing Area
>>>>> Director), Adrian Farrel (Routing Area Director), Ralph Droms
>>>>> (Internet Area Director), Geoffrey Mulligan (6lowpan WG Chair), Alexey
>>>>> Melnikov (Applications Area Director), Peter Saint-Andre (Applications
>>>>> Area Director), Marcelo Bagnulo (IAB), Zach Shelby (protocol
>>>>> author/editor), Isidro Ballesteros Laso (European Commission).
>>>>> More detailed information about the workshop is available at:
>>>>> Feel free to contact us at