Re: [smartpowerdir] [Iot-workshop-prep] Report on the Smart Grid work in the IETF

Vint Cerf <vint@google.com> Thu, 07 April 2011 09:42 UTC

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i have been using that term (IoT) for a while simply to make the point
that every day appliances can become part of the communicating and
manageable devices on the Internet, in the billions (including sensor
systems).

v


On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Fred Baker <fred@cisco.com> wrote:
> Thanks.
>
> Yes, I think of "IoT" as a marketing term, which is to say something someone came up with to find out how people would define it.
>
> :-)
>
> On Mar 30, 2011, at 7:35 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
>
>> On Mar 30, 2011, at 07:20, Fred Baker wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc5548.txt
>>> 5548 Routing Requirements for Urban Low-Power and Lossy Networks. M.
>>>    Dohler, Ed., T. Watteyne, Ed., T. Winter, Ed., D. Barthel, Ed.. May
>>>    2009. (Format: TXT=47759 bytes) (Status: INFORMATIONAL)
>>>
>>> The first was generated by 6lowpan,
>>
>> Actually, that is a ROLL document.  (The entire set of ROLL requirements RFCs is a great body of reference, by the way.)
>>
>> Note also that the full title of last week's IAB workshop is "Interconnecting Smart Objects with the Internet" (this is noteworthy as there is some debate around the term "Internet of Things").
>>
>> JFYI.
>>
>> Gruesse, Carsten
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