Re: [smartpowerdir] planned workshop on IOT

Fred Baker <> Wed, 22 December 2010 16:33 UTC

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I have heard a rumor that such a workshop is being discussed, but I have no idea what mailing list it's on. Clue please? I'd like to attend.

For myself, the difference of a day is "just a day". Prior to the Maastricht IETF, NIST/SGIP PAP #1 held a workshop on the Thursday, in Detroit, and I had to attend. If this is on the Friday, so much the better. My first choice would be to travel to Prague and be where I am going rather than traveling to one city and then traveling again to Prague. But I could be argued into coming to Helsinki or such, as long as I can get there by air coming from the US.

On Dec 22, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Geoff Mulligan wrote:

> Jari,
>  Is there any way to make this workshop on Saturday?  Putting it on
> Friday means that we have to leave the US at the latest by Thursday and
> in reality on Wednesday.  Personally this makes it very unlikely that I
> will be able to attend.
> Not sure about all the others traveling from the US.
> 	geoff
> On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 17:20 +0200, Jari Arkko wrote:
>> Hannes, me, Zack, and a few others have been talking about organizing a 
>> workshop right before the next IETF on IOT. Thoughts? Good idea/bad 
>> idea? Sufficient participation can be drummed up?
>> ----
>> Internet Scale Machine-to-Machine Networking
>> Background
>> Today's Internet is experienced by users as a set of applications,
>> such as email, instant messaging, and social networks. While these
>> applications do not require users to be present at the time of service
>> execution in many cases they are. There are also substantial
>> differences in performance between the various end devices, but in
>> general end devices participating in the Internet are considered to be
>> of higher performance.
>> As we move forward with the interconnection of all kinds of devices to
>> the Internet, these characteristics will change. "Internet of Things"
>> is a vision where a large number of devices benefit from the
>> communication services offered by the Internet. Many of these devices
>> are not directly operated by humans, but exist as stand-alone
>> components in buildings, vehicles, and the environment. There will be
>> a lot of variation in the computing power, available memory, and
>> communications bandwidth between different types of devices.
>> Many of these devices provide new services or provide more value for
>> our previously unconnected devices. Some devices have been connected
>> in various legacy means in the past but are now migrating to the use
>> of the Internet Protocol, sharing the same communications medium
>> between all applications and enabling rich communications services.
>> Much of this development can simply run on existing Internet
>> protocols. For instance, home entertainment and monitoring systems
>> often offer a web interface to the end user. In many cases the new,
>> constrained environments can benefit from additional protocols that
>> help optimize the communications and lower the computational
>> requirements. Examples of standardization efforts targeted for these
>> environments include the "Constrained RESTful Environments (core)",
>> IPv6 over Low power WPAN (6lowpan)", Routing Over Low power and Lossy
>> networks (roll)" working groups.
>> This workshop aims to explore the experience and approaches taken by
>> developers of Internet technology, when considering the
>> characteristics of constraint devices. Engineers know that many design
>> considerations need to be taken into account when developing protocols
>> and architecture. Balancing between the conflicting goals of computing
>> performance, code size, economical incentives, and security is often
>> difficult, as illustrated by Clark, et al. in "Tussle in Cyberspace:
>> Defining Tomorrow's Internet", see
>> This workshop aims to discuss the experience and approaches taken when
>> designing Internet of Things into protocols and architectures. To
>> frame the discussion we suggest, as examples, to investigate the area
>> of integration in the following categories:
>> * scalability
>> * power usage
>> * interworking between different technologies and network domains
>> * usability and manageability
>> * security
>> "To make the Internet work better" is the goal of the IETF and the
>> workshop organizers are interested in receiving contributions and in
>> having discussions that support this goal. Results may lead to
>> guidelines and recommendations, the development of standards, further
>> need for research, or implementation and configuration best current
>> practices.
>> Workshop Style
>> The workshop’s main focus will be on the discussions. In order to keep
>> the group at a manageable size, participants are required to submit a
>> position paper as an expression of interest. Submitters of accepted
>> position papers will be invited to attend the workshop. Active
>> participation will be expected.
>> The workshop will be structured as a series of working sessions
>> punctuated by invited speakers who will present relevant background
>> information or controversial ideas that help participants reach a
>> deeper understanding of the subject. The organizing committee may ask
>> submitters of particularly salient papers to present their ideas and
>> experiences at the workshop. For each slot, there will be one or two
>> invited controversial speakers, and group work on the problem that’s
>> identified, hopefully reaching either a deeper understanding of the
>> problem or some means of approaching it.
>> Important Dates
>> Position papers must be submitted at latest February, 11th, 2011.
>> Submitted position papers will be reviewed immediately by the program
>> organizers and an invitation to the workshop will be sent to one of
>> the paper authors. At latest, invitations will be distributed by
>> February, 25th.
>> This one-day workshop will take place on Friday, 25th March, 2011,
>> right before the 80th IETF meeting in Prague, which starts on Sunday,
>> 27th March. Independently of this workshop but relevant for the
>> participants are tutorial events on Saturday, 26th March 2011. These
>> tutorials will focus on ongoing IETF efforts related to the IETF CORE,
>> ROLL, and 6LOWPAN working groups.
>> Position Papers Requirements
>> Interested parties must submit a brief contribution describing their
>> work or approach as it relates to the workshop theme. We welcome
>> visionary ideas for how to tackle the integration of constraint
>> devices, as well as write-ups of deployment experience, and
>> lessons-learned from successful or failed attempts at integrating
>> these constraint devices with the Internet. Contributions are not
>> required to be original in content.
>> We solicit brief write-ups with 1 or 2 pages, formatted in HTML, PDF,
>> or plain text. We encourage paper authors to focus on the most
>> important challenge. A focused message will be key! Accepted position
>> papers will be published (in addition to meeting minutes, slides, and
>> a workshop report).
>> Please send your position paper to
>> Venue
>> The planned date and location for the workshop is Friday, March 25th,
>> in Prague. Details about the meeting venue will be provided to the
>> invited workshop participants. During the breaks coffee and tea will
>> be served.
>> There are no plans for remote participation. Minutes of discussions
>> will be available, and offers to organize audio recording would be
>> gladly appreciated.
>> Workshop Organizers
>> We look forward to your input. The workshop organizers are Jari Arkko
>> (Internet Area Director), Hannes Tschofenig (IAB), Bernard Aboba
>> (IAB), Carsten Bormann (core and 6lowpan WG Chair), David Culler (ROLL
>> WG Chair), Lars Eggert (Transport Area Director, and upcoming IRTF
>> Chair), JP Vasseur (ROLL WG Chair), Stewart Bryant (Routing Area
>> Director), Adrian Farrel (Routing Area Director), Ralph Droms
>> (Internet Area Director), Geoffrey Mulligan (6lowpan WG Chair), Alexey
>> Melnikov (Applications Area Director), Peter Saint-Andre (Applications
>> Area Director), Marcelo Bagnulo (IAB), Zach Shelby (protocol
>> author/editor), Isidro Ballesteros Laso (European Commission).
>> More detailed information about the workshop is available at:
>> Feel free to contact us at