Re: [smime] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC2633 (5019)

Josh Soref <jsoref@gmail.com> Sun, 14 May 2017 20:46 UTC

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From: Josh Soref <jsoref@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 14 May 2017 16:42:38 -0400
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Subject: Re: [smime] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC2633 (5019)
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Ok. Let's say that I'm new to IETF process. The feedback provided so far is
offensive.

Please suggest the proper way to annotate that there is an error in a
number of the documents hosted by IETF.

Clearly someone successfully ridiculed IETF once such that future standards
appropriately included "[sic]" wherever "referer" is used. It shouldn't be
hard to suggest to a submitter the correct way to do that today, decades
later.

On May 14, 2017 4:35 PM, "Jim Schaad" <ietf@augustcellars.com> wrote:

> The name chosen has absolutely no change of what is one the wire.   That
> means that this is at best editorial and is definitely not technical.
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> This is only going to affect those people who decide to use autogenerated
> constant names from the ASN.1 file.  The suggested change would make for an
> invalid ASN.1 file so it not correct.  Changing this name at this point
> would be a hassle for any one doing auto generation and highlighting that
> this is not, in some sense, a word does not affect the standard in any way.
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> This should be rejected.
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> Jim
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> *From:* smime [mailto:smime-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Russ Housley
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 14, 2017 10:55 AM
> *To:* Josh Soref <jsoref@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Kathleen Moriarty <Kathleen.Moriarty.ietf@gmail.com>; Paul Hoffman <
> paul.hoffman@vpnc.org>; Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>; IETF SMIME <
> smime@ietf.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [smime] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC2633 (5019)
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> It is the name that the author chose to use in the ASN.1.  If it was a
> typo, then it would have been changed in the subsequent update to the RFC.
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> Russ
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> On May 14, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Josh Soref <jsoref@gmail.com> wrote:
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> It isn't an abbreviation, other tokens are clearly longer such as
> signingCertificate and smimeEncryptCerts. It's likely that the errata
> applies to multiple RFCs.
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> On May 14, 2017 1:15 PM, "Russ Housley" <housley@vigilsec.com> wrote:
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> I believe that this errata should be rejected.  The author used an
> abbreviation, and the same spelling is used in RFC 3851.
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> Russ
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> > On May 14, 2017, at 12:35 PM, RFC Errata System <
> rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org> wrote:
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> > The following errata report has been submitted for RFC2633,
> > "S/MIME Version 3 Message Specification".
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> > --------------------------------------
> > You may review the report below and at:
> > http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5019
> >
> > --------------------------------------
> > Type: Technical
> > Reported by: Josh Soref <jsoref@gmail.com>
> >
> > Section: 5
> >
> > Original Text
> > -------------
> > id-aa-encrypKeyPref OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= {id-aa 11}
> >
> >
> > Corrected Text
> > --------------
> > id-aa-encrypKeyPref [sic] OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= {id-aa 11}
> >
> > Notes
> > -----
> > encryp isn't a word, it's a typo. Unfortunately, like http's (rfc1945)
> referer [sic] before it, this is now part of the API.
> >
> > This error should be highlighted (as rfc2068 does for referer [sic]) so
> that people are aware that the natural spelling doesn't apply.
> >
> > If it's possible for a revised RFC to be published suggesting the
> correct spelling w/ a way for clients/servers to handle the old spelling,
> that would be nice, but based on precedent, that seems unlikely.
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> > Instructions:
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> > This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please
> > use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or
> > rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party
> > can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary.
> >
> > --------------------------------------
> > RFC2633 (draft-ietf-smime-msg-08)
> > --------------------------------------
> > Title               : S/MIME Version 3 Message Specification
> > Publication Date    : June 1999
> > Author(s)           : B. Ramsdell, Ed.
> > Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
> > Source              : S/MIME Mail Security
> > Area                : Security
> > Stream              : IETF
> > Verifying Party     : IESG
> >
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