Re: More on KEKIdentifiers, and a suggested addition to CMS
jsp@jgvandyke.com (John Pawling) Fri, 12 March 1999 16:31 UTC
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To: John Ross <ross@secstan.com>, rankney@erols.com, pgut001@cs.aucKland.ac.nz, Russ Housley <housley@spyrus.com>
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Subject: Re: More on KEKIdentifiers, and a suggested addition to CMS
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All,
I believe that this proposal leads to non-interoperable S/MIME
implementations, so I oppose it. If the originator chooses a kext syntax
that the recipient's software does not understand, then the recipient will
not be able to decrypt the EnvelopedData content. I believe that the CMS
RecipientInfo syntax should not be changed until it is proven that it does
not meet a valid requirement ("valid" as defined by consensus of the S/MIME
WG). If that occurs, then we should consider adding a well-defined syntax
as a ReceipientInfo CHOICE (not a wild card).
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John Pawling, Director - Systems Engineering
J.G. Van Dyke & Associates, Inc., a Wang Global Company
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At 05:51 PM 3/11/99 -0800, John Ross wrote:
>If you are going to allow the choice to be extended, I agree with Rick that
>it should be controlled. Just extending the choice with a new tag (and by
>the way it also then needs a new version number), will give problems in the
>future, as it is not a unique identifier. What if a private extensions has
>been defined already and used tag 3? Also, if every extension to the choice
>needs a new CMSversion number assigned, that may be a lot of CMSversion
>around in the future. A while back I proposed to have an extensible "choice"
>using octet string, it would be better using OID and any defined by as
>follows:.
>
>
> The following is an example ASN.1:
>
> RecipientInfo ::= CHOICE {
> ktri KeyTransRecipientInfo,
> kari [1] KeyAgreeRecipientInfo,
> kekri [2] KEKRecipientInfo,
> kext [3] ExternalyDefinedKeyAgreement --for future or private key
>management schemes }
>
>
>
>ExternalyDefinedKeyAgreement :: = SEQUENCE {
> keyTypeIdentifier ObjectIdentier,
> keyTypeInfo OCTECT STRING --any defined by OID}
>
>This will at lease make sure that there is unique identifiers for all the
>extensions to recipient info.
>
>Regards
>
>John Ross
>
- More on KEKIdentifiers, and a suggested addition … Peter Gutmann
- Re: More on KEKIdentifiers, and a suggested addit… Russ Housley
- Re: More on KEKIdentifiers, and a suggested addit… John Pawling
- Re: More on KEKIdentifiers, and a suggested addit… Rich Ankney
- RE: More on KEKIdentifiers, and a suggested addit… Jim Schaad (Exchange)
- Re: More on KEKIdentifiers, and a suggested addit… Peter Gutmann
- Re: More on KEKIdentifiers, and a suggested addit… Magnus Nystrom
- Re: More on KEKIdentifiers, and a suggested addit… John Ross
- Re: More on KEKIdentifiers, and a suggested addit… Paul Hoffman / IMC
- Re: More on KEKIdentifiers, and a suggested addit… Russ Housley
- Re: More on KEKIdentifiers, and a suggested addit… Bruce Greenblatt
- Re: More on KEKIdentifiers, and a suggested addit… Paul Hoffman / IMC
- Re: More on KEKIdentifiers, and a suggested addit… Bruce Greenblatt
- Re: More on KEKIdentifiers, and a suggested addit… Russ Housley
- RE: More on KEKIdentifiers, and a suggested addit… Darren Harter
- Re: More on KEKIdentifiers, and a suggested addit… Peter Gutmann
- Re: More on KEKIdentifiers, and a suggested addit… John Pawling
- Re: More on KEKIdentifiers, and a suggested addit… John Ross
- Re: More on KEKIdentifiers, and a suggested addit… John Pawling
- RE: More on KEKIdentifiers, and a suggested addit… John Pawling
- Re: More on KEKIdentifiers, and a suggested addit… Peter Gutmann
- Re: More on KEKIdentifiers, and a suggested addit… ross@secstan
- Re: More on KEKIdentifiers, and a suggested addit… John Pawling
- Re: More on KEKIdentifiers, and a suggested addit… Peter Gutmann
- Re: More on KEKIdentifiers, and a suggested addit… John Pawling
- Re: More on KEKIdentifiers, and a suggested addit… Peter Gutmann
- Re: More on KEKIdentifiers, and a suggested addit… ross@secstan
- Re: More on KEKIdentifiers, and a suggested addit… Rich Ankney
- Re: More on KEKIdentifiers, and a suggested addit… John Pawling
- Re: More on KEKIdentifiers, and a suggested addit… ross@secstan
- Re: More on KEKIdentifiers, and a suggested addit… Russ Housley