Re: Source Routes

Ned Freed <NED@innosoft.com> Thu, 15 February 1996 01:38 UTC

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From: Ned Freed <NED@innosoft.com>
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Subject: Re: Source Routes
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> Are source route paths still used?  After reading the RFCs and IDs,
> my impression is that explicit paths in either MAIL FROM or RCPT TO
> can be ignored by the SMTP server.  The server can simply use the
> local part and domain name.

Yes, they are still used, although rarely. They should not be, but they are.

> Is this correct?

Yes, this is also correct. The intent as I understand it in RFC1123 was to
continue to require support for source route address format but deprecate the
functionality it implies.

> It seems much more clear that this is the case
> for RCPT TO than for MAIL FROM.  I'd like it to be equally true for
> MAIL FROM, but I want to make sure I'm correct and not reading what
> I want into what it says.

Sounds to me like your reading is correct.

> Do SMTP clients (and servers acting as clients) send explicit
> routes (for MAIL FROM or RCPT TO) much these days?  Do servers
> need to honor them?

No and no. The former because that's the way it is, the latter because
the specifications specifically let agents ignore source routes.

				Ned