Updated charters for the SIG and WG

["R.E. (Robert) Moore (254-4436)" <[e-mail]>]

One of the things we did when we met at AIW 13 was to agree on updates to
our AIW and IETF charters.  I've already made the updates to the AIW
charter; they should be coming out in the next day or two with Ed's
refresh of the AIW Web site.

I've attached below my first shot at an updated IETF charter.  There are
three sorts of changes to be aware of:

  -  Changes to the paragraphs at the front, which we essentially wrote
     at AIW 13.

  -  Updates to past goals and milestones.  I think I've got the
     milestones and order essentially correct, but I'm open to
     corrections.

  -  New future goals and milestones.  These, obviously, are the ones
     that we should be most concerned with now.

There are several questions we need to consider as a group, before we
submit this charter to our Area Director:

1.  EBN MIB schedule:  I show first I-D in August, and submission to the
    IESG in December.  Katie and I are comfortable with these dates; what
    do other WG members think?

2.  SNA NAU MIB:  We've said (twice!) that there's no interest among the
    current WG members in finishing the re-write of the SNA NAU MIB.  In
    addition to removing all the SNA NAU MIB milestones for the past year
    (which we didn't meet), I've omitted any reference to it in future
    milestones.  Any objections?

3.  APPN MIB:  I've indicated a December '97 milestone for taking the
    APPN MIB into the "Undiscovered Country" of progression to a Draft
    Standard.  I *know* we'll have the implementation experience (IBM and
    Cisco, at least) by then, but I'm still not that familiar with this
    part of the IETF process.  What do y'all think about this as a
    proposed milestone?

4.  APPC MIB:  Right now I don't have any future milestone for this MIB,
    since I'm not sure what we want to do about it.  We'll have
    implementation experience soon, but it's sort of peculiar experience:
    instrumentation of the APPC *control* sessions in APPN network nodes
    in routers.  Will anybody have any experience using the APPC MIB for
    instrumenting *users'* APPC sessions in end systems?  It seems like
    we'd want to have experience of this type before we progress the APPC
    MIB to Draft Standard.

    Of course the other problem with the APPC MIB is that it's from the
    pre-Randy review era.  It would take considerable effort (mostly mine
    :-( ) to bring it up to par editorially with our other MIBs.

    What does the WG think we should do with the APPC MIB in the rest of
    1997?

5.  DLUR and HPR MIBs:  I know we don't even have these to Proposed
    Standard yet, but assuming they get there fairly soon, when should we
    look to take them to Draft Standard?  I think that we'll have
    implementation experience to report in a few months, but what sort
    of milestone(s) should we set for ourselves?

At the IETF last week WG chairs were urged to get their charters updated
ASAP.  If we can reach closure on our charter discussions (on the mailing
list) in the next couple of weeks, I'll be able to get an updated charter
to Joel by the end of April.

Thanks,
Bob
+++++++++++ SNA NAU MIB WG Charter (Draft 1) +++++++++++++++++++++++
SNA NAU Services MIB (snanau) Charter

Chair(s)

     Robert Moore <[e-mail]>

Routing Area Director(s):

     Joel Halpern <[e-mail]>

Mailing List Information

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Description of Working Group

The SNA NAU MIB Working Group is chartered to define a set of managed
objects for SNA Network Accessible Units.  These objects will provide the
ability to monitor and control those devices, providing fault,
configuration, and performance management, and will be consistent with
the SNMP framework and existing SNMP standards.

The working group has completed MIBs for base SNA NAU functions, for LU
Type 6.2 or APPC (Advanced Program-to-Program Communication), and for
APPN (Advanced Peer-to-Peer Networking).  MIBs for Dependent LU Requester
(DLUR) and for HPR (High Performance Routing) are nearing completion.
The working group is currently working on a MIB for APPN Extended Border
Node (EBN).

The working group will make sure that its work is aligned with the SNA
DLC MIB Working Group, due to the close relationship between the devices
being worked on by the two groups.

Goals and Milestones

Done
     Begin discussion of proprietary MIBS and develop a single proposal.
Done
     Post an Internet-Draft of the SNA NAU Services MIB.
Done
     Submit the SNA NAU Services MIB to the IESG for consideration as a Proposed
Standard.
Done
     Post proprietary MIB modules.
Done
     Develop and post a single proposal for structure of the MIB module.
Done
     Meet at IETF to review proposed structure/walk through.
Done
     Post Internet-Draft of the APPC MIB.
Done
     Post second Internet-Draft of APPC MIB.
Done
     Meet at IETF to review MIB (if necessary).
Done
     Achieve consensus on the final Internet-Draft.
Done
     Post Internet-Draft of the APPN MIB.
Done
     Submit APPC MIB to the IESG for consideration as a Proposed Standard.
Done
     Post second Internet-Draft of APPN MIB.
Done
     Post third Internet-Draft of APPN MIB.
Done
     Post Internet-Draft of DLUR MIB.
Done
     Post Internet-Draft of HPR MIB.
Done
     Submit APPN MIB to the IESG for consideration as a Proposed Standard.
Done
     Post second Internet-Draft of DLUR MIB.
Done
     Post second Internet-Draft of HPR MIB.
May 97
     Submit DLUR MIB to the IESG for consideration as a Proposed Standard.
May 97
     Submit HPR MIB to the IESG for consideration as a Proposed Standard.
Aug 97
     Post Internet-Draft of EBN MIB
Dec 97
     Submit EBN MIB to the IESG for consideration as a Proposed Standard.
Dec 97
     Submit APPN MIB to the IESG for consideration as a Draft Standard.

Current Internet-Drafts

     Definitions of Managed Objects for APPN (214585 bytes)
     Definitions of Managed Objects for HPR (60281 bytes)
     Definitions of Managed Objects for DLUR (30852 bytes)

Request for Comments

     Definitions of Managed Objects for SNA NAUs using SMIv2 (RFC 1665) (133381 bytes)
     Definitions of Managed Objects for SNA NAUs using SMIv2 (RFC 1666) (134385 bytes)
     Definitions of Managed Objects for APPC (RFC 2051) (239359 bytes)