Minutes of Joint SNANAU WG / APPN MIBS SIG Meeting at AIW 14
"R.E. (Robert) Moore (254-4436)" <REMOORE@ralvm6.vnet.ibm.com> Tue, 29 July 1997 15:36 UTC
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From: "R.E. (Robert) Moore (254-4436)" <REMOORE@ralvm6.vnet.ibm.com>
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Subject: Minutes of Joint SNANAU WG / APPN MIBS SIG Meeting at AIW 14
The IETF SNA NAU Services MIB (snanau) WG and the AIW APPN MIBs SIG held a joint meeting on July 17 at AIW 14 in San Jose, California, with Bob Moore serving as chair. The following topics were discussed: 1. Following the Border Node decision to request CP approval for the EBN Architecture Reference at the AIW closing plenary, the MIBs SIG agreed to make a similar request for the EBN MIB. Both the Architecture and the MIB were granted CP status by the AIW. There are still a few open questions on the EBN Architecture, which will be handled as architecture maintenance items. These may result in minor changes or extensions to the EBN MIB, but at this point the SIG feels that the MIB is sufficiently stable to be issued by the WG as an Internet-Draft. 2. The Branch Extender MIB was presented by Bob Moore. This MIB is a part of the overall Branch Extender architecture that IBM contributed to the AIW. The MIB contains only four accessible objects, which extend four tables in the APPN MIB (RFC 2155). Rather than maintaining a separate MIB module, Bob recommended that the four objects be incorporated into the APPN MIB, under the heading of "implementation experience." (A similar set of MLTG objects approved by the SIG at AIW 13 have already followed this path.) Bob agreed to distribute an updated APPN MIB module with the Branch Extender objects added to it. 3. Bob reported that the DLUR and HPR MIBs are currently in the queue for IESG review for promotion to Proposed Standard. 4. There was an extensive discussion of implementation experience as an IETF requirement for advancement to Draft Standard status. Currently the WG has two MIBs at the Proposed Standard level (APPC - RFC2051 and APPN - RFC 2155), and two more waiting to get there (DLUR and HPR). The WG's initial focus will be on collecting and documenting implementation experience for the APPN MIB, since it is the foundation for the DLUR and HPR MIBs, and since we know that there are at least two independent agent-side implementations (IBM and Cisco), and at least two management applications (again, IBM and Cisco). The WG enumerated a number of items we want to document in our implementation experience for the APPN MIB: - extensions to match APPN architecture extensions (MLTG, Branch Extender) - unimplemented objects - objects with hard-coded, non-standard, or otherwise "exceptional" values - where the MIB leaves room for implementation choices, the choices that were actually made - relationships between MIB implementations and other network management elements (e.g., the APPN Node Operator Facility) Bob agreed to post to the mailing list a first draft of the IBM agent's implementation experiences for the APPN MIB, as well as a draft of a template for documenting MIB implementation experience. Vivian Tseng agreed to assemble a draft of the Cisco agent's implementation experiences for the APPN MIB. One question raised in the meeting is whether there are two independent agent implementations of the APPC MIB. Bob indicated that IBM has one, but none of the other representatives present were aware of implementations in their companies. If anyone on the mailing list is aware of another APPC MIB implmentation, they should report on it. As usual, the SIG and WG plan to hold their next joint meeting at the next AIW: AIW 15 will be held November 3 - 6, in Raleigh, NC. Attendees: Mike Cambria mcambria@lucent.com Lucent Technologies Gary Dudley gdudley@vnet.ibm.com IBM Victor Freyer vfreyer@cisco.com Cisco Systems Doyle Horne dhorne@vnet.ibm.com IBM Fran Hunt fhunt@baynetworks.com Bay Networks Pad Jakkahalli pad@cisco.com Cisco Systems Vishwa Maravanthe vishwa@cisco.com Cisco Systems Chuck Minchew cminchew@us.ibm.com IBM Prasad Miriyala miriyala@cisco.com Cisco Systems Bob Moore remoore@us.ibm.com IBM Tim Stotelmeyer timst@atm.com Attachmate Ed Tremblay edtremblay@vnet.ibm.com IBM Vivian Tseng vtseng@cisco.com Cisco Systems Peter J. Williams wna@compuserve.com WNA Ltd. Doug Wolff dougw@3com.com 3Com Bob Moore, IBM Networking Software
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