Re: snmpv2 Will it flood us or be slow
Bill Norton <wbn@merit.edu> Mon, 11 October 1993 19:37 UTC
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Subject: Re: snmpv2 Will it flood us or be slow
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 14:29:49 -0400
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From: Bill Norton <wbn@merit.edu>
Karl - I'm actually being swayed towards the other side by the workable reference implementations. I fetched the ISODE and CMU implementations and have been doing interoperability experiments. So far, everything seems to work very well, indicating to me that the spec is definately implementable. I would note a few things though: 1) Other (non-snmpv2 author written) implementations need to speak up with respect to their interoperability/implementation experiences. This will tell us whether or not the specs stand on their own and lead to interoperable standards. 2) The end-user shouldn't notice much of a difference during normal operations, right? The users are really concerned about getting at the instrumentation, and both SNMPv2 and SNMPv2 provide that. In fact SNMPv2 will make apps like stats gathering and table dumps quicker. 3) I (in theory) agree that SNMPv2 problems, if they arise, will be more difficult to debug. Problems like clock synching, secret exchanges, diagnosing authentication and encryption implementation problems, and diagnosing problems when the data is encrypted seems like it would be trouble. 4) These reference implementations don't include all the pieces (ISODE doesn't have Manager-to-manager or privacy) making it difficult to explore these potential problems. >1) It is very easy for people who are 'in' to things to think >that everyone else has the same level of commitment and interest. >They can end up designing somthing that may be very elegant and >comprehensive but is totally unusable by end users. SNMP achieved >acceptance because it was 'simple' - to implement, to use and to >diagnose. What we are looking at with v2 is somthing that - while >it addresses shortcomings in v1 - requires drastic increases in >storage, processing power and developer time. This does not bode >well. Well come on now Karl, you don't believe companies are sending their employees here for totally altruistic reasons, do you? >2) I'm inherently suspicous of draft standards that are proposed >by people who may have a pecunary interest in their being >adopted. > Bill
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