Re: [Softwires] I-D Action: draft-ietf-softwire-lw4over6-06.txt

Ole Troan <otroan@employees.org> Thu, 06 March 2014 13:10 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Softwires] I-D Action: draft-ietf-softwire-lw4over6-06.txt
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Yuchi,

> IMHO doing LPM with the lwAFTR's address is more straightforward than with a "Domain v6 prefix".
> 
> In addition, I don't see why Ian's proposal cannot cover the case you mentioned, the case in which an address out of the prefix domain can be chosen as the tunnel endpoint address. If lwB4 has been provisioned with such an address, and if this address does have a LPM with lwAFTR's address, lwB4 can still use it as the tunnel endpoint address. Please correct me if I'm missing anything.

there are two issues here.

1) in the unified CPE context. is there a benefit in having the same algorithm to choose the CE tunnel endpoint address?
    are the requirements different?
2) pick the right mechanism for tunnel end point determination. in your above scheme you do not have the same flexibility as you have with a provisioned prefix selector 

I though we had covered one in previous discussions, but there might be something I've missed.
are we in agreement on this point? that it is beneficial to use the same mechanism for tunnel endpoint address determination on the CE.

cheers,
Ole