Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparency to IPv4 TOS
Ole Troan <otroan@employees.org> Mon, 17 October 2011 17:34 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparency to IPv4 TOS
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Remi, >>>> how is 4rd-U different from translation? >>> >>> Functionally, full network transparency to DF bit (and TOS with the complement that was missing). >>> Technically, see for instance Figure 1 of the draft. >> >> I thought the dIVI guys presented the DF bit transparency during the Beijing meeting? > > They did, but AFAIK not as completely as section 1 of my draft. > > >> I don't understand what the difference between "IP data" and Transport is in figure 1. > > IP data is, as shown in my Figure 1, everything after the IPv4 header: > +----------------+ > | IPv4 Header | > +----------------+ > | IP Data | > +----------------+ > > Transport header is as in Figure 2 of RFC 6145: > > +-------------+ +-------------+ > | IPv4 | | IPv6 | > | Header | | Header | > +-------------+ +-------------+ > | Transport- | | Fragment | > | Layer | ===> | Header | > | Header | | (if needed) | > +-------------+ +-------------+ > | | | Transport- | > ~ Data ~ | Layer | > | | | Header | > +-------------+ +-------------+ > | | > ~ Data ~ > | | > +-------------+ > > May I suggest that you re-read RFC 6145, and thus understand all what becomes unnecessary with 4rd-U :-). > > >> consider me slow, but don't you still either have to update the transport checksum, or adjust the checksum with other changes in the IPv6 header, e.g. flow. > > None of this is needed (this is where 4rd-U has in common with 4rd-Encap). I thought we agreed that we didn't want to create packets with invalid checksums. this could trivially be made checksum neutral though. in any case I thought this was exactly what dIVI did already... cheers, Ole cheers, Ole
- [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparency t… Rémi Després
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Satoru Matsushima
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Maoke
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Satoru Matsushima
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Maoke
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Satoru Matsushima
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Maoke
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Rémi Després
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Ole Troan
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Rémi Després
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Ole Troan
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Rémi Després
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Rémi Després
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Ole Troan
- [Softwires] ECN [4rd-U complement - e2e transpare… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Softwires] ECN [4rd-U complement - e2e trans… Rémi Després
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Rémi Després
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Rémi Després
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Ole Troan
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Mark Townsley
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Rémi Després
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Rémi Després
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Mark Townsley
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Rémi Després
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Mark Townsley
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Rémi Després
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Mark Townsley
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Mark Townsley
- Re: [Softwires] ECN [4rd-U complement - e2e trans… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Softwires] ECN [4rd-U complement - e2e trans… Rémi Després
- Re: [Softwires] Standardizing "4rd-U" vs "4rd-Enc… Rémi Després
- Re: [Softwires] Standardizing "4rd-U" vs "4rd-Enc… Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [Softwires] Standardizing "4rd-U" vs "4rd-Enc… Rémi Després
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Tetsuya Murakami
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Rémi Després