Re: [Softwires] I-D Action: draft-ietf-softwire-map-08.txt
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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 15:46:11 +0200
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Subject: Re: [Softwires] I-D Action: draft-ietf-softwire-map-08.txt
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Re-, It seems we are in disagreement here. Looking to have more feedback for the list. Thanks for engaging. Cheers, Med >-----Message d'origine----- >De : Ole Troan [mailto:otroan@employees.org] >Envoyé : mardi 13 août 2013 15:00 >À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed OLNC/OLN >Cc : softwires@ietf.org >Objet : Re: [Softwires] I-D Action: draft-ietf-softwire-map-08.txt > >Med, > >> We both agree there is no justification to maintain the dhcp draft in the >normative section. I consider that point closed and will wait to see this >fixed in the document. Given that this document does not rely on how >provisioning is achieved and given the unified CPE is where this is >supposed to be discussed, I do still think any reference to provisioning >should refer to the unified CPE. > >"not necessarily against...", is quite far from agree. ;-) >MAP doesn't discuss the details of provisioning, but it does have a SHOULD >to implement the MAP DHCP option. the reason for this is so that all MAP >implementations at least support one provisioning mechanism in common. > >does the unified CPE propose something conflicting with the current text in >MAP? >(the temptation is of course to remove the normative reference, given that >progress on a 'unified' DHCP option is slow). > >> It really does not make sense to not require the CE to follow the unified >CPE behavior (in particular http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-softwire- >unified-cpe-01#section-3.2) if we want a minimum of coherency among the >solutions discussed so far. > >that's for the unified CPE document to say. > >> I don't think that referring to the unified CPE draft will block the >publication of the MAP document. This is not a technical reason BTW. > >no, it is not a technical reason. it is a design goal to keep MAP >independent of the other mechanisms, i.e. it must be possible to implement >routers that only support MAP and no other of the mechanisms. > >> If we maintain the same positive energy as we have started to do in the >Atlanta meeting, I do think that we will be able to deliver all these >documents as a package. > >positive energy is good! might be a little misplaced here though. ;-) >to me it looks like we've moved the contentious parts that led to all of >DS-lite, MAP-E, MAP-T, 4rd, LW46, Public 4over6 and no consensus to the >DHCP/unified CPE documents. > >cheers, >Ole
- [Softwires] I-D Action: draft-ietf-softwire-map-0… internet-drafts
- Re: [Softwires] I-D Action: draft-ietf-softwire-m… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Softwires] I-D Action: draft-ietf-softwire-m… Satoru Matsushima
- Re: [Softwires] I-D Action: draft-ietf-softwire-m… Ole Troan
- Re: [Softwires] I-D Action: draft-ietf-softwire-m… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Softwires] I-D Action: draft-ietf-softwire-m… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Softwires] I-D Action: draft-ietf-softwire-m… Maoke
- Re: [Softwires] I-D Action: draft-ietf-softwire-m… Ole Troan
- Re: [Softwires] I-D Action: draft-ietf-softwire-m… Qi Sun
- Re: [Softwires] I-D Action: draft-ietf-softwire-m… Ole Troan
- Re: [Softwires] I-D Action: draft-ietf-softwire-m… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Softwires] I-D Action: draft-ietf-softwire-m… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Softwires] I-D Action: draft-ietf-softwire-m… Ole Troan
- Re: [Softwires] I-D Action: draft-ietf-softwire-m… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Softwires] I-D Action: draft-ietf-softwire-m… Ole Troan
- Re: [Softwires] I-D Action: draft-ietf-softwire-m… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Softwires] I-D Action: draft-ietf-softwire-m… Satoru Matsushima
- Re: [Softwires] I-D Action: draft-ietf-softwire-m… Maoke
- Re: [Softwires] I-D Action: draft-ietf-softwire-m… ian.farrer
- Re: [Softwires] I-D Action: draft-ietf-softwire-m… Mikael Abrahamsson