[Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparency to IPv4 TOS
Rémi Després <despres.remi@laposte.net> Mon, 17 October 2011 12:36 UTC
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Subject: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparency to IPv4 TOS
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Hi Satoru-san, Thank you for identifying a limitation of the 4rd-U You are right, as currently specified, "it doesn't support diff-serv tunneling model, pipe and short-pipe". All these need e2e transparency to the IPv4 Type of Service. Fortunately, this is easy to fix: in the Identification field of the IPv6 Fragment header, copy not only the DF bits but also the IPv4 TOS. The proposed 4r-U packet format becomes: +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ |Vers=6 | TrafClass | Flow Label | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Payload Length |Next Header=44 | Hop Limit | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | | + + | | + IPv6 Source Address + | | + + | | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | | + + | | + IPv6 Destination Address + | | + + | | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Next Header | Reserved | IPv6 Fragment Offset | 0 |M| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ |D| 0 | IPv4 TOS | IPv4 Identification | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | IPv4 Payload | | | With this added, I believe that 4rd-U is a real progress over previously proposed Double translation and Encapsulation. It can make IMHO a valuable unified standard. Yet, I may have missed something else. New justified objections are therefore most welcome.. Regards, RD
- [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparency t… Rémi Després
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Satoru Matsushima
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Maoke
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Satoru Matsushima
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Maoke
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Satoru Matsushima
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Maoke
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Rémi Després
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Ole Troan
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Rémi Després
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Ole Troan
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Rémi Després
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Rémi Després
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Ole Troan
- [Softwires] ECN [4rd-U complement - e2e transpare… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Softwires] ECN [4rd-U complement - e2e trans… Rémi Després
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Rémi Després
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Ole Troan
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Mark Townsley
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Rémi Després
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Rémi Després
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Mark Townsley
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Rémi Després
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Mark Townsley
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Rémi Després
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Mark Townsley
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Mark Townsley
- Re: [Softwires] ECN [4rd-U complement - e2e trans… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Softwires] ECN [4rd-U complement - e2e trans… Rémi Després
- Re: [Softwires] Standardizing "4rd-U" vs "4rd-Enc… Rémi Després
- Re: [Softwires] Standardizing "4rd-U" vs "4rd-Enc… Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [Softwires] Standardizing "4rd-U" vs "4rd-Enc… Rémi Després
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Rémi Després
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Tetsuya Murakami
- Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U complement - e2e transparen… Rémi Després