Re: [solace] Slides posted for SAAG heads-up
Rene Struik <rstruik.ext@gmail.com> Wed, 07 November 2012 23:29 UTC
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Subject: Re: [solace] Slides posted for SAAG heads-up
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_Dear colleagues: _ _ _ _What about starting with the following use case scenario, which was one of the scenarios brought up by user community (Shell, in this case) in industrial control network setting? _ _ _ _Scenario 1:_ ·Plant X wants to install a wireless sensor network to measure 5 pressure and 5 temperature points. One gateway. That gateway to connect to the legacy wired infrastructure. Plant X now has a DCS system with an Ethernet L2 network. Plant X likes to buy pressure instruments from vendor A, and temperature instruments from B. Gateways for G. ·Plant X uses contractor C for installation and commissioning. Scenario 1b would now include realization that contractor C turns out not to be that trust worthy and threatens to throw installation info on the street, unless a $1m amount is being paid to an offshore account. I believe this should not be "too theoretical" (??). Rene On 11/7/2012 5:10 PM, Robert Cragie wrote: > > On 07/11/2012 9:38 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: >> Hi Rene, >> >> good to hear from you. >> >> Clearly, we cannot stop at exactly one usage scenario. >> But I strongly believe we need to start with exactly one. >> When we have the contributions for that, we can probably ask much >> better questions for the next round, where we will add scenarios. > +1. The premise for an effective usage scenario is that it is fully or > at least well understood otherwise it is not a usage scenario. It is > all very well theorising on a multitude of usage scenarios and saying > they are all important but unless they are proven to be relevant and > the particular issues are understodd, they lose their relevance as a > usage scenario. >> >> The slides are indeed more for SAAG and less for people who would >> focus on the logistics of rolling out 50000000000 devices. >> SOLACE clearly goes beyond security, or we could do it right there in >> the security area. > +1. >> >> The security objectives slides are divided into one for the specific >> ones for a scenario and one for the general ones (one could say >> "motherhood and apple pie" if they were better understood). Even if >> the specific ones can be toned down, we still have the general ones, >> and that includes avoiding susceptibility to mass attacks. (This is >> one of the points that were made at the March SoS workshop.) And >> that is, very much, the reason why compromising on security always >> leads to security compromises. >> >> Grüße, Carsten >> >> _______________________________________________ >> solace mailing list >> solace@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/solace >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > solace mailing list > solace@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/solace -- email: rstruik.ext@gmail.com | Skype: rstruik cell: +1 (647) 867-5658 | US: +1 (415) 690-7363
- Re: [solace] Slides posted for SAAG heads-up Carsten Bormann
- Re: [solace] Slides posted for SAAG heads-up Robert Cragie
- [solace] Slides posted for SAAG heads-up Carsten Bormann
- Re: [solace] Slides posted for SAAG heads-up Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [solace] Slides posted for SAAG heads-up Rene Struik
- Re: [solace] Slides posted for SAAG heads-up Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [solace] Slides posted for SAAG heads-up Rene Struik
- Re: [solace] Slides posted for SAAG heads-up Carsten Bormann
- Re: [solace] Slides posted for SAAG heads-up Rene Struik
- Re: [solace] Slides posted for SAAG heads-up Robert Cragie
- Re: [solace] Slides posted for SAAG heads-up Keoh, Sye Loong
- Re: [solace] Slides posted for SAAG heads-up Rene Struik