Re: [solace] Notes from the SOLACE ad-hoc at IETF85

Carsten Bormann <> Mon, 05 November 2012 19:34 UTC

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On Nov 5, 2012, at 10:35, Carsten Bormann <> wrote:

> OK, let's meet up at the end of the apparea meeting (1 h from now) at the front.
> Of course, everybody else who missed yesterday's discussion or just wants to continue the chat is welcome.

So we had a ~ one-hour lunchtime discussion today, too.

Akbar Rahman
Carsten Bormann *)
Oscar Garcia-Morchon
Stephen	Chasko
Sye Loong Keoh
Yoshihiro Ohba *)
*) = were present yesterday, too

I din't take notes quite as diligently as yesterday.
We went through the work ahead as it seems to materialize for a phase 1:

-- come up with a call for contributions (which specifically lists the
   questions we ask) -> (November)
-- solicit the contributions (Internet-Drafts) -> (maybe till January)
-- sort and structure, define a common terminology
   (have a first Webex call maybe in January)
-- maybe get some of the contributions to rev based on the emerging terminology
-- summarize and define work for phase 2
   (Orlando IETF)

We also discussed that we want to de-emphasize greenfield
"architecture" work and make this more of a phenomenology of existing
and emerging solutions.  It is important that the solutions are
actually described in the contributions in sufficient detail that we
can do meaningful comparisons and derive architecture by detecting

On the "how do we do this" side of things, I explained a bit how
previous IRTF RGs have worked and how different they were.  E.g., some
of these actually went so far to produce their own protocol
specifications.  This is very likely not something we want to do.

Next steps:
1) Go to the SAAG meeting on Thursday.
2) See list above.

Grüße, Carsten