Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop -- Service Orchestration and Desciption for Cloud Services

Monique Morrow <mmorrow@cisco.com> Thu, 16 February 2012 14:09 UTC

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From: Monique Morrow <mmorrow@cisco.com>
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TIA

Monique


On 2/14/12 10:45 PM, "Ping Pan" <ping@pingpan.org>; wrote:

> Where does OpenStack Quantum fit?
> 
> OpenStack Quantum is to have agents in controllers and networking devices for
> the purpose of better transport. This is well within the goal of SDN.
> 
> Ping
> 
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>; wrote:
>> 
>> Actually I think those are quite separate problem spaces.
>> 
>> SOP aim to address the requirement of cloud to cloud communication (hybrid or
>> multi-domain). The way I think about this is how to standardize and
>> synchronize OpenStack to OpenStack instrumentation signaling. The next step
>> would be to actually also provide cloud to cloud communication layer. Simple
>> example: How to launch N VMs in various data centers to be part of common
>> resources for customer X.
>> 
>> On the contrary SDNx seems to me of totally different caliber. One way to
>> look at this is what and how we could use APIs exposed by existing network
>> control planes to define and accomplish new network services. I quite do not
>> see current network element control planes nor their APIs as much relevant to
>> cloud services.
>> 
>> My own personal view ;)
>> 
>> Regards,
>> R.
>> 
>> 
>>> I'd like to get some clarification (from anyone who might know or
>>> have an opinion) on how this would interact with/be distinct from any
>>> of the SDNP (or whatever name we decide upon) proposed work. Is this
>>> duplication/people striking out on their own from the nascent SDNP
>>> effort, a companion effort that became clear as we have begun
>>> segmenting the problem space, or something else entirely? Since this
>>> is the first I've heard of the list, I'm thinking it's a separate
>>> effort, but I figured I would raise the topic for discussion.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Wes George
>>> 
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>>> Non-WG Mailing List: sop -- Service Orchestration and Desciption for
>>> Cloud Services
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>>> A new IETF non-working group email list has been created.
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