Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop -- Service Orchestration and Desciption for Cloud Services
Monique Morrow <mmorrow@cisco.com> Thu, 16 February 2012 14:09 UTC
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From: Monique Morrow <mmorrow@cisco.com>
To: Ping Pan <ping@pingpan.org>, robert@raszuk.net
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Guys Please join the SOP mailer List address: sop@ietf.org Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sop/ To subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sop TIA Monique On 2/14/12 10:45 PM, "Ping Pan" <ping@pingpan.org> wrote: > Where does OpenStack Quantum fit? > > OpenStack Quantum is to have agents in controllers and networking devices for > the purpose of better transport. This is well within the goal of SDN. > > Ping > > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> wrote: >> >> Actually I think those are quite separate problem spaces. >> >> SOP aim to address the requirement of cloud to cloud communication (hybrid or >> multi-domain). The way I think about this is how to standardize and >> synchronize OpenStack to OpenStack instrumentation signaling. The next step >> would be to actually also provide cloud to cloud communication layer. Simple >> example: How to launch N VMs in various data centers to be part of common >> resources for customer X. >> >> On the contrary SDNx seems to me of totally different caliber. One way to >> look at this is what and how we could use APIs exposed by existing network >> control planes to define and accomplish new network services. I quite do not >> see current network element control planes nor their APIs as much relevant to >> cloud services. >> >> My own personal view ;) >> >> Regards, >> R. >> >> >>> I'd like to get some clarification (from anyone who might know or >>> have an opinion) on how this would interact with/be distinct from any >>> of the SDNP (or whatever name we decide upon) proposed work. Is this >>> duplication/people striking out on their own from the nascent SDNP >>> effort, a companion effort that became clear as we have begun >>> segmenting the problem space, or something else entirely? Since this >>> is the first I've heard of the list, I'm thinking it's a separate >>> effort, but I figured I would raise the topic for discussion. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Wes George >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org >>> [mailto:ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org >>> <mailto:ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org> ] On Behalf Of IETF >>> Secretariat Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 2:25 PM To: IETF >>> Announcement list Cc: sop@ietf.org; Monique Morrow Subject: New >>> Non-WG Mailing List: sop -- Service Orchestration and Desciption for >>> Cloud Services >>> >>> >>> >>> A new IETF non-working group email list has been created. >>> >>> List address: sop@ietf.org Archive: >>> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sop/ >>> <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sop/> To subscribe: >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sop >>> <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sop> >>> >>> Purpose: Cloud services need to interoperate across cloud providers, >>> service vendors and private/public domains. To enable this >>> interoperability, there is need for a standard wire-format for >>> exchanging service information. This mailing lists is for discussing >>> protocols, data formats and server descriptions formats that allow >>> cloud services to be discovered and used across private and public >>> domains. Using these, it would be possible to interoperate diverse >>> APIs and cloud services across service providers, service vendors and >>> service users. >>> >>> For additional information, please contact the list administrators. >>> _______________________________________________ IETF-Announce mailing >>> list IETF-Announce@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce >>> <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce> >>> >>> This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Time Warner Cable >>> proprietary information, which is privileged, confidential, or >>> subject to copyright belonging to Time Warner Cable. This E-mail is >>> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it >>> is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this E-mail, >>> you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, >>> copying, or action taken in relation to the contents of and >>> attachments to this E-mail is strictly prohibited and may be >>> unlawful. If you have received this E-mail in error, please notify >>> the sender immediately and permanently delete the original and any >>> copy of this E-mail and any printout. >>> _______________________________________________ SDNP mailing list >>> SDNP@lucidvision.com http://lucidvision.com/mailman/listinfo/sdnp >>> <http://lucidvision.com/mailman/listinfo/sdnp> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SDNP mailing list >> SDNP@lucidvision.com >> http://lucidvision.com/mailman/listinfo/sdnp >> <http://lucidvision.com/mailman/listinfo/sdnp> > > > > _______________________________________________ > SDNP mailing list > SDNP@lucidvision.com > http://lucidvision.com/mailman/listinfo/sdnp
- [sop] New Non-WG Mailing List: sop -- Service Orc… IETF Secretariat
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Monique Morrow
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [sop] FW: [Sdnp] New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Ashish Dalela (adalela)
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Scott Brim
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Ping Pan
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Ashish Dalela (adalela)
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Michael Hammer
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Ping Pan
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Ping Pan
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Ashish Dalela (adalela)
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Michael Hammer
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Ping Pan
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Ping Pan
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Ashish Dalela (adalela)
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Michael Hammer
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Ashish Dalela (adalela)
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Michael Hammer
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Michael Hammer
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Ping Pan
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Ashish Dalela (adalela)
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Michael Hammer
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [sop] -- Service Orchestration and Desciption… Ashish Dalela (adalela)
- Re: [sop] -- Service Orchestration and Desciption… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [sop] -- Service Orchestration and Desciption… Ashish Dalela (adalela)
- Re: [sop] -- Service Orchestration and Desciption… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] New Non-WG Mailing List: sop -- … DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] New Non-WG Mailing List: sop -- … Ashish Dalela (adalela)
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] New Non-WG Mailing List: sop -- … DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] New Non-WG Mailing List: sop -- … Ashish Dalela (adalela)