Re: [sop] -- Service Orchestration and Desciption for Cloud Services
"Ashish Dalela (adalela)" <adalela@cisco.com> Fri, 17 February 2012 00:21 UTC
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From: "Ashish Dalela (adalela)" <adalela@cisco.com>
To: robert@raszuk.net
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Robert, You need to go past this argument that OpenStack is healthy and by implication IETF is not. Or, what we have proposed here will break OpenStack. This effort is not opposed to any open-source effort, including OpenStack. Its goal is to allow open and closed source to interoperate. Unless you are mandating that every cloud controller on the planet ought to be OpenStack, I don't see how this argument is relevant. The tradeoff should not be between go open source or you can never interoperate. That hasn't worked in the past, and it won't in the case of cloud. Thanks, Ashish -----Original Message----- From: Robert Raszuk [mailto:robert@raszuk.net] Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:55 PM To: Michael Hammer Cc: Thomas Nadeau; sdnp; Ping Pan; Monique Morrow (mmorrow); sop@ietf.org; Ashish Dalela (adalela) Subject: Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop -- Service Orchestration and Desciption for Cloud Services > Yeah, having more than one standard is an issue as well. > Would hope that we could converge early on one, but the IETF is what it is. > But that is not an argument against trying, or you might as well shut > down any effort. Actually my only observation here is that openstack community seems to be a very health environment where things actually get done well and quick (read like IETF was doing in 1980s and 1990s) so I am just trying to make sure this effort (or whatever it will be end effect of this effort here) will not break it or will be even considered by current openstack community. If someone would ask me I would say that cloud to cloud standardization should belong and be done today in openstack community rather then in IETF. Thx, R.
- [sop] New Non-WG Mailing List: sop -- Service Orc… IETF Secretariat
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Monique Morrow
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [sop] FW: [Sdnp] New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Ashish Dalela (adalela)
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Scott Brim
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Ping Pan
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Ashish Dalela (adalela)
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Michael Hammer
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Ping Pan
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Ping Pan
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Ashish Dalela (adalela)
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Michael Hammer
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Ping Pan
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Ping Pan
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Ashish Dalela (adalela)
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Michael Hammer
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Ashish Dalela (adalela)
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Michael Hammer
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Michael Hammer
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Ping Pan
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Ashish Dalela (adalela)
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Michael Hammer
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [sop] -- Service Orchestration and Desciption… Ashish Dalela (adalela)
- Re: [sop] -- Service Orchestration and Desciption… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [sop] -- Service Orchestration and Desciption… Ashish Dalela (adalela)
- Re: [sop] -- Service Orchestration and Desciption… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] New Non-WG Mailing List: sop -- … DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] New Non-WG Mailing List: sop -- … Ashish Dalela (adalela)
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] New Non-WG Mailing List: sop -- … DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA
- Re: [sop] [Sdnp] New Non-WG Mailing List: sop -- … Ashish Dalela (adalela)