Re: [sop] -- Service Orchestration and Desciption for Cloud Services

"Ashish Dalela (adalela)" <> Fri, 17 February 2012 00:21 UTC

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You need to go past this argument that OpenStack is healthy and by
implication IETF is not. Or, what we have proposed here will break

This effort is not opposed to any open-source effort, including
OpenStack. Its goal is to allow open and closed source to interoperate.
Unless you are mandating that every cloud controller on the planet ought
to be OpenStack, I don't see how this argument is relevant.

The tradeoff should not be between go open source or you can never
interoperate. That hasn't worked in the past, and it won't in the case
of cloud. 

Thanks, Ashish

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From: Robert Raszuk [] 
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To: Michael Hammer
Cc: Thomas Nadeau; sdnp; Ping Pan; Monique Morrow (mmorrow);; Ashish Dalela (adalela)
Subject: Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop -- Service
Orchestration and Desciption for Cloud Services

> Yeah, having more than one standard is an issue as well.
> Would hope that we could converge early on one, but the IETF is what
it is.
> But that is not an argument against trying, or you might as well shut
> down any effort.

Actually my only observation here is that openstack community seems to 
be a very health environment where things actually get done well and 
quick (read like IETF was doing in 1980s and 1990s) so I am just trying 
to make sure this effort (or whatever it will be end effect of this 
effort here) will not break it or will be even considered by current 
openstack community.

If someone would ask me I would say that cloud to cloud standardization 
should belong and be done today in openstack community rather then in