Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop -- Service Orchestration and Desciption for Cloud Services

"Ashish Dalela (adalela)" <adalela@cisco.com> Thu, 16 February 2012 16:28 UTC

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>> Be careful. Others have brought up similar proposal before. IETF stands for Internet Engineering TF... Networking is the name of the game. ;-) If not networking, I fear it would be wrong place to do the work.

 

That I disagree with because HTTP, SIP, SMTP, SOAP, SNMP are all L7 protocols. I wonder how many people call that networking .. but in a way they are Internet. Certain things like SNMP go beyond networks. SOAP goes even beyond infrastructure. SMTP is totally application, and so is SIP and HTTP.

 

Did you see the drafts yet? The requirement draft has a section  “Is Cloud Control an Internet Problem?”. The intent of that section is to describe why IETF is the place to do this work.

 

Thanks, Ashish

 

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Subject: Re: [sop] [Sdnp] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: sop -- Service Orchestration and Desciption for Cloud Services

 

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Ashish Dalela (adalela) <adalela@cisco.com>; wrote:

This isn’t just about the network resources and SOP isn’t only about provisioning network resources. The protocol definition is generalized to support any kind of service – network included.

 

Be careful. Others have brought up similar proposal before. IETF stands for Internet Engineering TF... Networking is the name of the game. ;-) If not networking, I fear it would be wrong place to do the work.

 

In SDN, our focus is on networking. Further, we are trying to distance ourselves from the actual DC network fabric design (all vendor-specific so far).

 

Regards,

 

Ping