[Hipsec-rg] Re: Native HIP API questions in the hipsec-rg meeting
touch@ISI.EDU (Joe Touch) Sat, 21 August 2004 12:35 UTC
From: touch@ISI.EDU (Joe Touch)
Date: Sat Aug 21 12:35:03 2004
Subject: [Hipsec-rg] Re: Native HIP API questions in the hipsec-rg meeting
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This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig59215F12241C9731B7D6547C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Miika Komu wrote: > On Thu, 19 Aug 2004, Joe Touch wrote: > > >>We already have a DNS which provides a global resolution structure. What >>is the gain in having a global ID space? >> >>Far as I can tell, you need the DNS (or a copy that's just as >>complicated and global) to give you the rendezvous points. If the dest >>IS the rendezvous point, you're done. Why bother putting the ID in the >>DNS and ensuring that it's global? > > > If you don't know the ID of the peer before connection establishment, it > is called "HIP opportunistic mode". A hostile host can DoS the peer and > pretend to be the peer for you. > > On the other hand, you can detect that another host has replaced the real > peer if you can first lookup the ID of the peer from the DNS. A hostile host can just lookup the host it wants to impersonate and use its HIP ID anyway. If you go to the DNS, presumably the entry there was signed - if you need to validate that the endpoint is who the DNS says it was, you MUST use the same signing authority as validation anyway; the HIP ID doesn't add any information. Joe --------------enig59215F12241C9731B7D6547C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBJgzAE5f5cImnZrsRAjN7AJ436O25zkgbXXH9+TW7oKiZMIWrhgCdHg+q 42/2WDjgUFkJPBYCcaEsfJ8= =ahrg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig59215F12241C9731B7D6547C--
- [Hipsec-rg] Re: Native HIP API questions in the h… Miika Komu
- [Hipsec-rg] Re: Native HIP API questions in the h… Joe Touch
- [Hipsec-rg] Re: Native HIP API questions in the h… Joe Touch
- [Hipsec-rg] Re: Native HIP API questions in the h… Henderson, Thomas R
- [Hipsec-rg] Re: Native HIP API questions in the h… Miika Komu
- [Hipsec-rg] Re: Native HIP API questions in the h… Henderson, Thomas R