Re: [lamps] Alexey Melnikov's Discuss on draft-ietf-lamps-cms-shakes-15: (with DISCUSS)

Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org> Thu, 08 August 2019 12:36 UTC

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From: Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org>
To: Alexey Melnikov <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
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Thread-Topic: Alexey Melnikov's Discuss on draft-ietf-lamps-cms-shakes-15: (with DISCUSS)
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Subject: Re: [lamps] Alexey Melnikov's Discuss on draft-ietf-lamps-cms-shakes-15: (with DISCUSS)
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Hi!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexey Melnikov [mailto:aamelnikov@fastmail.fm]
> Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 8:31 AM
> To: Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org>; The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
> Cc: draft-ietf-lamps-cms-shakes@ietf.org; lamps-chairs@ietf.org; SPASM
> <spasm@ietf.org>; Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>
> Subject: Re: Alexey Melnikov's Discuss on draft-ietf-lamps-cms-shakes-15:
> (with DISCUSS)
> 
> Hi Roman,
> 
> On Thu, Aug 8, 2019, at 5:50 AM, Roman Danyliw wrote:
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: iesg [mailto:iesg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alexey
> > > Melnikov via Datatracker
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2019 2:55 AM
> > > To: The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
> > > Cc: draft-ietf-lamps-cms-shakes@ietf.org; lamps-chairs@ietf.org;
> > > spasm@ietf.org; housley@vigilsec.com
> > > Subject: Alexey Melnikov's Discuss on
> > > draft-ietf-lamps-cms-shakes-15: (with
> > > DISCUSS)
> > >
> > > Alexey Melnikov has entered the following ballot position for
> > > draft-ietf-lamps-cms-shakes-15: Discuss
> > >
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> > >
> > > Please refer to
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> > >
> > >
> > > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
> > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lamps-cms-shakes/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > --
> > > DISCUSS:
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > --
> > >
> > > This is a fine document, but I have one quick question:
> > >
> > > Values TBD1..TBD4 are not listed in the IANA Considerations section.
> > > Should they be?
> >
> > I don't think so.  This document and draft-ietf-lamps-pkix-shakes both
> > need the same OIDs (but have no other dependence).  This latter draft
> > is with the RFC Editor and does register these OIDs.
> 
> Ok, I understand now.
> 
> >  The current text,
> > "[I-D.ietf-lamps-pkix-shake] [ EDNOTE: Update reference with the RFC
> > when it is ready ]", was intended to guide the editor to replace
> > TBD1-4 the OIDs when ietf-lamps-pkix-shake got published.  However, in
> > re-reading the text now, the EDNOTE should actually read "Updated the
> > TBD1-2 reference when the RFC is published".
> 
> There are 2 places TBD1-2 and TBD3-4. But yes, something like that.
>
> I read the current text as just an instruction to change the draft name to the
> corresponding RFC number, so clarifying it would be great.

Exactly.  There are two places where this update needs to be made.

Thanks,
Roman

> >
> > Make sense?
> 
> Best Regards,
> Alexey