Re: [lamps] Adam Roach's Discuss on draft-ietf-lamps-rfc5280-i18n-update-03: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> Wed, 11 October 2017 18:22 UTC
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Subject: Re: [lamps] Adam Roach's Discuss on draft-ietf-lamps-rfc5280-i18n-update-03: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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> On Oct 10, 2017, at 9:10 PM, Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> wrote: > > Adam Roach has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-lamps-rfc5280-i18n-update-03: Discuss > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this > introductory paragraph, however.) > > > Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html > for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > > > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lamps-rfc5280-i18n-update/ > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > DISCUSS: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The final paragraph in Section 2.4 reads: > > Implementations should convert the local-part and the host-part of > internationalized email addresses placed in these extensions to > Unicode before display. > > The mention of converting "local-part" to "Unicode" has a very strong > implication that the local-part of internationalized email addresses can be > (should be?) ACE-encoded (or otherwise converted to some non-Unicode encoding). > Unless my understanding of internationalized email addresses is wildly wrong > (and that may be the case), this isn't how they work: the local-part *is* in > Unicode, and so conversion to Unicode doesn't make sense. > > This seems highly likely to lead developers down the path of ACE-encoding the > local-part component of email addresses, which would cause incompatibilities. Right. I'll correct that text. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > COMMENT: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The document has several instances of (lower-case) "should" where talking about > implementation behavior. These look like they should be normative to me -- if > that's the intention, please make them uppercase. If not, please update to RFC > 8174 boilerplate. Okay. I'll double check each use of "should" in the document. > The document contains the following normative requirement: > > Note: Implementations MUST allow for increased space requirements > for IDNs. > > It's hard to determine what an implementation needs to do in order to satisfy > this normative requirement. Presumably, "increased" is relative to previous > buffer allocations for domain names? Also, the statement can be satisfied as > stated by simply increasing such buffers by a single byte. Surely that's not > what's intended, is it? The real assistance comes in the next sentence: An IDN ACE label will begin with the four additional characters "xn--" and may require as many as five ASCII characters to specify a single international character. > (Aside: I find the use of "Note:" preceding normative text to be confusing, so > you might want to remove it) It is more of an implementation consideration. Russ
- [lamps] Adam Roach's Discuss on draft-ietf-lamps-… Adam Roach
- Re: [lamps] Adam Roach's Discuss on draft-ietf-la… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] Adam Roach's Discuss on draft-ietf-la… Alexey Melnikov