Re: [lamps] [Anima] /.well-known/brski reference to brski-registry

Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> Mon, 04 April 2022 02:36 UTC

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> On Apr 1, 2022, at 02:25, Brockhaus, Hendrik <hendrik.brockhaus@siemens.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>> Von: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>
>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 31. März 2022 19:53
>> 
>>> On Mar 31, 2022, at 12:20 PM, Brockhaus, Hendrik
>> <hendrik.brockhaus@siemens.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you Michael for rising the questions.
>>> 
>>>> Von: Anima <anima-bounces@ietf.org> Im Auftrag von Michael Richardson
>>>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 31. März 2022 17:48
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> We were discussing the /.well-known/cmp that is in being proposed in
>>>> draft-ietf- lamps-cmp-updates, We were comparing it to
>>>> /.well-known/brski and /.well- known/est.
>>>> 
>>>> Question 2)
>>>>  Should the CMP document be establishing a registry or not?
>>>> 
>>> As discussed during IETF 113 I plan to do these things in CMP Updates
>>> - register 'cmp' in the "Well-Known URIs" registry
>>> - define a protocol registry group "Certificate Management Protocol (CMP)"
>>> - define a registry for "CMP Well-Known Arbitrary Label URI Segments"
>> defining 'p' to be followed by a <profileLabel>.
>>> In addition I would define a registry for "CMP Well-Known Operation Label URI
>> Segments" in Lightweight CMP Profile containing the path segments defined
>> three for http and coap use.
>>> 
>>> Does this makes sense?
>> 
>> Hendrik:
>> 
>> That is consistent with the discussion lat week.
>> 
>> Russ
> 
> Would it also be sufficient to have only one additional registry "CMP Well-Known URI Path Segments" containing the arbitrary label 'p' and the operation labels?
> 
> Hendrik

When the /.well-known/est/ was registered we only did the top level, i.e., /est/. There are no registries for the /.well-known/est/*this part*.  It’s not clear to me that you need to do anything more than get /.well-known/cmp.

What will be the registration policy [0] for the ‘p’ values? I assume FCFS (first come first served)?

spt

[0] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8126/