Re: [lamps] LAMPS at IETF 105

Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> Thu, 02 May 2019 19:05 UTC

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Subject: Re: [lamps] LAMPS at IETF 105
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Max:

Please start a separate thread, with an appropriate subject line to talk about the addition to the LAMPS charter that you are suggesting.  I do not want anyone to miss it because of the subject line.

Rus


> On May 2, 2019, at 2:53 PM, Dr. Pala <madwolf@openca.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Russ,
> 
> I was just reviewing it [*] and I do not think it does. I was thinking that if the WG will be interested in the adoption of the document, then we will have to explicitly add a new entry to the list of items in the Charter. 
> 
> I am thinking that the entry might look like the following (but not proposing the re-chartering before the group reviews the combined draft):
> 
> Specify the use of composite signatures and keys for PKIX. In recent years,
> the crypto communities have been very active in identifying new public key
> algorithms with different security properties and performances (e.g., ECC,
> Hash-Based, etc.). However, it is not always easy to establish if a new
> algorithm has been studied enough or if (and when) an old algorithm might
> fall apart. An example of this uncertainty, today, is related to quantum-resistant
> algorithms vs. "traditional" ones. The possibility for combining algorithms
> with different properties provides support for less risky transitioning strategies
> for deploying new algorithms by enabling deferred algorithm agility.
> 
> This is just an example of the required additional item for the charter to get the work in scope, I guess :D
> 
> Cheers,
> Max
> 
> 
> 
> [*] = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-lamps/ <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-lamps/>
> On 5/2/19 2:07 PM, Russ Housley wrote:
>> Max:
>> 
>> Do you believe that the current charter covers you proposed way forward?
>> 
>> Russ
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2019, at 1:04 PM, Dr. Pala <madwolf@openca.org <mailto:madwolf@openca.org>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Russ, Tim, all,
>>> 
>>> On the Composite Crypto discussion at the last IETF, I think we will be ready to present on the unified draft proposal that we would like to discuss in LAMPS and, if we are ready, look into asking for adoption of the document.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Max
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 4/23/19 5:10 PM, Russ Housley wrote:
>>>> In the last few days before IETF 104, we got a flurry of requests to present in the LAMPS WG.  In an effort to learn about them sooner, we are asking whether anyone has topics to discuss in July at IETF 105.  The IESG is going through the re-charter process, so we can assume that the header protection work item will be approved by the time that we meet in July.
>>>> 
>>>> Russ & Tim
>> 
>> 
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