[lamps] Draft New Version (was Re: [saag] Proposal for OCSP over DNS)
"Dr. Pala" <madwolf@openca.org> Thu, 26 October 2017 21:59 UTC
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Subject: [lamps] Draft New Version (was Re: [saag] Proposal for OCSP over DNS)
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Hi all, I just want to let everybody know that we manage to send in the latest version of the draft that better organizes the text and incorporates the previous work / I-Ds into one: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pala-odin comments, feedback, etc. always welcome :D Cheers, Max On 10/23/17 3:38 PM, Dr. Pala wrote: > > Hi Paul, all, > > the way I personally see this is not only related to Internet CAs / > website-oriented TLS, but also as a way to distribute the revocation > information in environments where entities (devices, software, etc.) > might be restricted from accessing the global Internet but still > allowed to query the DNS. Entities leveraging specific trust > environments (e.g., OCF, CMI, etc. ) might especially benefit from > this additional distribution mechanism (which is not in competition > with existing solutions :D) > > Beefing up CAs web infrastructures is what CAs have been doing so far > - AFAIK, however that comes at high operational costs that have to be > covered somehow :D I think that it will be useful to have an > alternative that can be as efficient (if not even more efficient), > distributed (info get closer to the client), and that comes at > (potentially) lower operational costs. > > Just my 2 cents... > > Cheers, > Max > > > On 10/23/17 3:13 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: >> On 23 Oct 2017, at 13:54, Dr. Pala wrote: >> >>> we are currently working on specifying how to use DNS as a transport >>> protocol for revocation information for X509 certificates. In >>> particular, we are working on how to leverage the distributed nature >>> of DNS to efficiently (and at lower operational costs) distribute >>> OCSP responses to applications/devices/etc. >>> >>> We started this work sometime ago but never really had the time to >>> finish it. Now it seems we can focus more on the topic and would >>> like to discuss this work in a more public venue. >>> >>> We currently have two similar I-D submitted (that should probably be >>> re-edited and merged): >>> >>> * https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pala-odin/ >>> * https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pala-rea-ocsp-over-dns/ >>> >>> EKR suggested that this may be another topic for the SEC-DISPATCH >>> meeting. Can we have 5-10 minutes for this @IETF100 ? >> >> These sound like "we want HTTP over UDP to save latency, so we'll >> just substitute DNS". That's certainly an option, but it hasn't been >> a popular route in the IETF. Are the busy CAs asking for this? Is >> there a reason why they can't just beef up their web infrastructure >> (like their customers are)? >> >> --Paul Hoffman > > -- > Best Regards, > Massimiliano Pala, Ph.D. > OpenCA Labs Director > OpenCA Logo > > > _______________________________________________ > saag mailing list > saag@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/saag