[lamps] Draft New Version (was Re: [saag] Proposal for OCSP over DNS)
"Dr. Pala" <madwolf@openca.org> Thu, 26 October 2017 21:59 UTC
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Subject: [lamps] Draft New Version (was Re: [saag] Proposal for OCSP over DNS)
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Hi all,
I just want to let everybody know that we manage to send in the latest
version of the draft that better organizes the text and incorporates the
previous work / I-Ds into one:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pala-odin
comments, feedback, etc. always welcome :D
Cheers,
Max
On 10/23/17 3:38 PM, Dr. Pala wrote:
>
> Hi Paul, all,
>
> the way I personally see this is not only related to Internet CAs /
> website-oriented TLS, but also as a way to distribute the revocation
> information in environments where entities (devices, software, etc.)
> might be restricted from accessing the global Internet but still
> allowed to query the DNS. Entities leveraging specific trust
> environments (e.g., OCF, CMI, etc. ) might especially benefit from
> this additional distribution mechanism (which is not in competition
> with existing solutions :D)
>
> Beefing up CAs web infrastructures is what CAs have been doing so far
> - AFAIK, however that comes at high operational costs that have to be
> covered somehow :D I think that it will be useful to have an
> alternative that can be as efficient (if not even more efficient),
> distributed (info get closer to the client), and that comes at
> (potentially) lower operational costs.
>
> Just my 2 cents...
>
> Cheers,
> Max
>
>
> On 10/23/17 3:13 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote:
>> On 23 Oct 2017, at 13:54, Dr. Pala wrote:
>>
>>> we are currently working on specifying how to use DNS as a transport
>>> protocol for revocation information for X509 certificates. In
>>> particular, we are working on how to leverage the distributed nature
>>> of DNS to efficiently (and at lower operational costs) distribute
>>> OCSP responses to applications/devices/etc.
>>>
>>> We started this work sometime ago but never really had the time to
>>> finish it. Now it seems we can focus more on the topic and would
>>> like to discuss this work in a more public venue.
>>>
>>> We currently have two similar I-D submitted (that should probably be
>>> re-edited and merged):
>>>
>>> * https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pala-odin/
>>> * https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pala-rea-ocsp-over-dns/
>>>
>>> EKR suggested that this may be another topic for the SEC-DISPATCH
>>> meeting. Can we have 5-10 minutes for this @IETF100 ?
>>
>> These sound like "we want HTTP over UDP to save latency, so we'll
>> just substitute DNS". That's certainly an option, but it hasn't been
>> a popular route in the IETF. Are the busy CAs asking for this? Is
>> there a reason why they can't just beef up their web infrastructure
>> (like their customers are)?
>>
>> --Paul Hoffman
>
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> Best Regards,
> Massimiliano Pala, Ph.D.
> OpenCA Labs Director
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