Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-vangeest-x509-hash-sigs-03
Ryan Sleevi <ryan-ietf@sleevi.com> Tue, 02 April 2019 06:22 UTC
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2019 15:22:42 +0900
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Subject: Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-vangeest-x509-hash-sigs-03
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Opposed. It does not seem the concerns raised in the November thread - e.g. https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spasm/4EP3bX2adJBCmTjBMYazAKQJFU0 - have been addressed. Much like we should be careful about introducing CBC or other non-AEAD constructions in TLS, we should be very careful in introducing algorithms with critical system failures in the presence of issues widespread in existing PKIs. Moving from a stateful signature algorithm to a stateless one seems the best way to achieve the goals stated in the draft, and without such (significant) risks. On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 9:56 PM Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> wrote: > We talked about the "Algorithm Identifiers for HSS and XMSS for Use in the > Internet X.509 Public Key Infrastructure" < > https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-vangeest-x509-hash-sigs-03.txt> document > today dat the face-to-face meeting session. It was suggested that the > document is read for WG adoption. Please voice your support or concerns on > the list. > > Russ > > _______________________________________________ > Spasm mailing list > Spasm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spasm >
- [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-nir-saag-star Tim Hollebeek
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-nir-saag-s… Melinda Shore
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-nir-saag-s… Ryan Sleevi
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-nir-saag-s… Dr. Pala
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-nir-saag-s… Daniel Migault
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-nir-saag-s… Russ Housley
- [lamps] discuss: empty OSCP (as: Re: Call for ado… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-nir-saag-s… Dr. Pala
- [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-vangeest-x509-… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-vangeest-x… Salz, Rich
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-vangeest-x… Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)
- [lamps] Side-channel attack on multi-level trees … Dang, Quynh (Fed)
- Re: [lamps] Side-channel attack on multi-level tr… Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)
- Re: [lamps] Side-channel attack on multi-level tr… Dang, Quynh (Fed)
- Re: [lamps] Side-channel attack on multi-level tr… Jim Schaad
- Re: [lamps] Side-channel attack on multi-level tr… Dang, Quynh (Fed)
- Re: [lamps] Side-channel attack on multi-level tr… Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)
- Re: [lamps] Side-channel attack on multi-level tr… Jim Schaad
- Re: [lamps] Side-channel attack on multi-level tr… Tim Hollebeek
- Re: [lamps] Side-channel attack on multi-level tr… Dang, Quynh (Fed)
- Re: [lamps] Side-channel attack on multi-level tr… Jim Schaad
- Re: [lamps] Side-channel attack on multi-level tr… Dang, Quynh (Fed)
- Re: [lamps] Side-channel attack on multi-level tr… Tim Hollebeek
- Re: [lamps] Side-channel attack on multi-level tr… Dang, Quynh (Fed)
- Re: [lamps] Side-channel attack on multi-level tr… Dang, Quynh (Fed)
- Re: [lamps] Side-channel attack on multi-level tr… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] Side-channel attack on multi-level tr… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] Side-channel attack on multi-level tr… Dang, Quynh (Fed)
- Re: [lamps] Side-channel attack on multi-level tr… Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)
- Re: [lamps] Side-channel attack on multi-level tr… Daniel Van Geest
- Re: [lamps] Side-channel attack on multi-level tr… Dang, Quynh (Fed)
- Re: [lamps] Side-channel attack on multi-level tr… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] Side-channel attack on multi-level tr… Panos Kampanakis (pkampana)
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-vangeest-x… Ryan Sleevi
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-vangeest-x… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-vangeest-x… Adam Langley
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-vangeest-x… Jonathan Hammell
- Re: [lamps] Side-channel attack on multi-level tr… Tim Hollebeek
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-vangeest-x… Tim Hollebeek
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-vangeest-x… Jim Schaad
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-vangeest-x… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-vangeest-x… Russ Housley