Re: [lamps] OID für KEM?

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Sun, 10 October 2021 18:10 UTC

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Subject: Re: [lamps] OID für KEM?
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Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL <uri@ll.mit.edu> wrote:
    > On 10/8/21, 13:17, "Benjamin Kaduk" <kaduk@mit.edu> wrote:
    > On Fri, Oct 08, 2021 at 01:13:01PM -0400, Russ Housley wrote:
    >>> .  .  .  .  .  My worry is with the winning algorithms.
    >>> I worry that implementations will have to support the
    >>> researcher-assigned OID and the NIST-assigned OID.
    >>
    >> Sounds like what happened at https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pull/16594
    >>
    >> OpenSSL waited for the final SHA3 to implement, but then
    >> got asked to also expose pre-standardization Keccak.
    >> ^^^^

    > I acknowledge the concern that Russ expressed. But IMHO, it's
    > inconvenient at worst. I see no reason to bend over backwards trying to
    > avoid such a situation.

I also agree that it can be annoying, but I don't think that it's that huge a deal.
It would be nice if this didn't happen, but it seems to me that integers are
plentiful, and I think that we gain as a community from understanding how
things work or didn't work.

As I understand Ben's comment, the "pre-standization Keccak" (and the
unmodified Rijndael) are in fact different algorithms.

Ben didn't say what OpenSSL did.

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