[lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KEM and ML-DSA private key format Specifications
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Subject: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KEM and ML-DSA private key format Specifications
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John Gray <John.Gray=40entrust.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: >> In short, {SEED + KEY} is recommended, {KEY} is mandatory >> to support, and {SEED} is optional to support. > If the KEY is mandatory, why is it optional in the ASN.1? Supporting does not equal using! I think that the desire is that all software/systems are able to import {KEY}. Some private key blobs will have {KEY} and {SEED}, and some will have only one. For systems that can only import {KEY}, a user faced with a blob that has only {SEED}, would be able to use another tool to turn the {SEED} into {SEED}+{KEY}. That's what I read from Viktor's message. (That was a long email that took a lot of thought: Thank you Viktor) I'm all for extending the WGLC, and be generous here. -- Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca> . o O ( IPv6 IøT consulting ) Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Watson Ladd
- [lamps] Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KEM an… Viktor Dukhovni
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… John Gray
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Kampanakis, Panos
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Daniel Van Geest
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Michael Richardson
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Simo Sorce
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… David Hook
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Viktor Dukhovni
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Viktor Dukhovni
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Sean Turner
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Markku-Juhani O. Saarinen
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Viktor Dukhovni
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Michael Richardson
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Salz, Rich
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Simo Sorce
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… John Mattsson
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to E… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Sean Turner
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Carl Wallace
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Watson Ladd
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Watson Ladd
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Salz, Rich
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Damien Miller
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… David Hook
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Watson Ladd
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Watson Ladd
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Watson Ladd
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… David Benjamin
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Daniel Van Geest
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… David Benjamin
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Viktor Dukhovni
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… John Kemp
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Carl Wallace
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Sean Turner
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Salz, Rich
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Salz, Rich
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… David Hook
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Watson Ladd
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Watson Ladd
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Dmitry Belyavskiy
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Salz, Rich
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Michael StJohns
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Peter Gutmann
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Viktor Dukhovni
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Viktor Dukhovni
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Viktor Dukhovni
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Watson Ladd
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Michael Richardson
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Viktor Dukhovni
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… David Benjamin
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Michael StJohns
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Sophie Schmieg
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Salz, Rich
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Damien Miller
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Request to Extend IETF WGL… Alicja Kario
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Sophie Schmieg
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Request to Extend IETF WGL… Alicja Kario
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… StJohns, Michael
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Carl Wallace
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Tim Hudson
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Sophie Schmieg
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Viktor Dukhovni
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Watson Ladd
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Michael Richardson
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Deirdre Connolly
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… David Hook
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Request to Extend IETF WGL… Alicja Kario
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Michael Richardson
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… David Benjamin
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Sophie Schmieg
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Falko Strenzke
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Watson Ladd
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Viktor Dukhovni
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to E… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request to Extend IETF… Sophie Schmieg
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Jean-Pierre Fiset
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC… Bas Westerbaan
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Watson Ladd
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Falko Strenzke
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Salz, Rich
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Simo Sorce
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Sophie Schmieg
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC… Sophie Schmieg
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Jean-Pierre Fiset
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC… Sean Turner
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC… Bas Westerbaan
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC… D. J. Bernstein
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… David Hook
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Viktor Dukhovni
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Robert Relyea
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Simo Sorce
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC… D. J. Bernstein
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Simo Sorce
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Wei-Jun Wang
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC… Ilari Liusvaara
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC… Viktor Dukhovni
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Viktor Dukhovni
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Wei-Jun Wang
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… David Hook
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Viktor Dukhovni
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… D. J. Bernstein
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Damien Miller
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Wei-Jun Wang
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… Watson Ladd
- [lamps] Re: Request to Extend IETF WGLC for ML-KE… David Hook