Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: draft-housley-lamps-norevavail-00
Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> Tue, 23 May 2023 18:29 UTC
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Subject: Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: draft-housley-lamps-norevavail-00
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PROPOSED ERRATA for RFC 6960, Section 4.2.2.2.1 OLD: - A CA may specify that an OCSP client can trust a responder for the lifetime of the responder's certificate. The CA does so by including the extension id-pkix-ocsp-nocheck. This SHOULD be a non-critical extension. The value of the extension SHALL be NULL. CAs issuing such a certificate should realize that a compromise of the responder's key is as serious as the compromise of a CA key used to sign CRLs, at least for the validity period of this certificate. CAs may choose to issue this type of certificate with a very short lifetime and renew it frequently. id-pkix-ocsp-nocheck OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { id-pkix-ocsp 5 } NEW: - A CA may specify that an OCSP client can trust a responder for the lifetime of the responder's certificate. The CA does so by including the extension id-pkix-ocsp-nocheck. This SHOULD be a non-critical extension. The value of the extension SHALL be NULL. CAs issuing such a certificate should realize that a compromise of the responder's key is as serious as the compromise of a CA key used to sign CRLs, at least for the validity period of this certificate. CAs may choose to issue this type of certificate with a very short lifetime and renew it frequently. id-pkix-ocsp-nocheck OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { id-pkix-ocsp 5 } A CA MUST NOT include the extension id-pkix-ocsp-nocheck in a certificate issued to an entity other than an OCSP Responder. Russ > On May 23, 2023, at 11:34 AM, Tim Hollebeek <tim.hollebeek=40digicert.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > > Would it be useful to clearly and explicitly state this unstated assumption somewhere, perhaps in an errata? > > “id-pkix-ocsp-nocheck SHALL NOT appear in a certificate unless that certificate is a delegated OCSP responder” would probably be a good thing to have stated somewhere. > > I suppose it could be added to the CABF BRs as well. They have the same bug (the BRs require nocheck in delegated OCSP responders, but don’t prohibit it elsewhere). > > -Tim > > From: Spasm <spasm-bounces@ietf.org <mailto:spasm-bounces@ietf.org>> On Behalf Of Russ Housley > Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2023 1:16 PM > To: Mike Ounsworth <Mike.Ounsworth@entrust.com <mailto:Mike.Ounsworth@entrust.com>> > Cc: Seo Suchan <tjtncks@gmail.com <mailto:tjtncks@gmail.com>>; LAMPS <spasm@ietf.org <mailto:spasm@ietf.org>> > Subject: Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: draft-housley-lamps-norevavail-00 > > Mike: > > Interesting > > RFC6960, section “4.2.2.2.1 <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6960#section-4.2.2.2.1>. Revocation Checking of an Authorized Responder” > > “A CA may specify that an OCSP client can trust a responder for the > lifetime of the responder's certificate. The CA does so by > including the extension id-pkix-ocsp-nocheck” > > Are you allowed to put an id-pkix-ocsp-nocheck extension in end entity certs? If so, what does that mean? > > My reading of the description is that id-pkix-ocsp-nocheck should only appear in a certificate issued to an OCSP responder. > > Russ > > _______________________________________________ > Spasm mailing list > Spasm@ietf.org <mailto:Spasm@ietf.org> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spasm <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spasm>
- [lamps] draft-housley-lamps-norevavail-00 Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] draft-housley-lamps-norevavail-00 Tomofumi Okubo
- Re: [lamps] draft-housley-lamps-norevavail-00 Tim Hollebeek
- Re: [lamps] draft-housley-lamps-norevavail-00 Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] draft-housley-lamps-norevavail-00 Salz, Rich
- Re: [lamps] draft-housley-lamps-norevavail-00 Salz, Rich
- Re: [lamps] draft-housley-lamps-norevavail-00 Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] draft-housley-lamps-norevavail-00 Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: draft-housley-lamps-no… Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] draft-housley-lamps-norevavail-00 Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] draft-housley-lamps-norevavail-00 Tim Hollebeek
- Re: [lamps] draft-housley-lamps-norevavail-00 Tim Hollebeek
- Re: [lamps] draft-housley-lamps-norevavail-00 Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] draft-housley-lamps-norevavail-00 Seo Suchan
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: draft-housley-lamps-no… Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: draft-housley-lamps-no… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: draft-housley-lamps-no… Deb Cooley
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: draft-housley-lamps-no… Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] draft-housley-lamps-norevavail-00 Jeffrey Walton
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: draft-housley-lamps-no… Watson Ladd
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: draft-housley-lamps-no… Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: draft-housley-lamps-no… Tim Hollebeek
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: draft-housley-lamps-no… Tim Hollebeek
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: draft-housley-lamps-no… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: draft-housley-lamps-no… Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: draft-housley-lamps-no… Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: draft-housley-lamps-no… Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: draft-housley-lamps-no… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: draft-housley-lamps-no… Salz, Rich
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: draft-housley-lamps-no… Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: draft-housley-lamps-no… Michael StJohns