[lamps] Re: TLS Client Certificates; a survey

Mike Ounsworth <ounsworth+ietf@gmail.com> Mon, 30 March 2026 20:52 UTC

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> Does the IETF have a Liason to the Chrome Root Program?

+ @David Benjamin <davidben@chromium.org> and @David Adrian both
participate in IETF.

On Mon, 30 Mar 2026 at 15:40, Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 30, 2026 at 08:04:54PM +0000, Salz, Rich wrote:
> > The overwhelming response (strong consensus) — both posted and via
> > private replies — is that applications will just switch to
> > TLS-Server-Auth identities for the client side.
>
> That violates RFCs 5280 & 8446 and vitiates the Chrome Root Program's
> new policy.  Whatever problem that policy change meant to addres might
> only be made worse by this approach (sure, only for those apps that
> implement this workaround, but for those, yes, it will be worse).
>
> There has to be a better way.
>
> Does the IETF have a Liason to the Chrome Root Program?  Can we reach
> out to them and ask them?  When I did they simply did not respond, but
> if the IETF TLS and/or LAMPS WG chairs, or IETF Security ADs reach out
> to them perhaps they'll respond -- failing that then maybe the IETF
> Chair or the IAB.
>
> Nico
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