Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-related Internet-Drafts

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Wed, 07 June 2023 00:20 UTC

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Subject: Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-related Internet-Drafts
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Salz, Rich <rsalz=40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
      > Has “EXPERIMENTAL but never STANDARDS” been done before? If the work

Uhm. Well, PS -> IS is really exactly that.

    > After some discussion off-line, they recommend I post this further
    > clarification: I guess it’s this: I don’t want “everyone” to feel
    > pressured to implement this.  If it’s just experimental, then some
    > people will try it, we will learn things, and then we can pick the
    > “real” solution.

6bone, 3ffe::/16 comes to mind.
It seems to require a few influencial entities willing to get together for a
3 to 5 year effort, and not lose direction.

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